# On the Reality of Mining Permits **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Petra\_Angeles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/petra_angeles/32/505220_2.png) [@Petra\_Angeles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Petra_Angeles)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/711 "2024-10-28T17:47:40Z")
Retracted ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/712 "2024-10-28T17:51:19Z")
So why was I kicked out of the bar and grill just now? What did I do wrong? Why no one can help me? You sent the yak back? I needed you to please forward that isk I sent you to the thread owner as each time I tried it comes back with payment error. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/713 "2024-10-28T18:21:12Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > What did I do wrong? > > Why no one can help me? It is said that `ignorance is bliss`, except if you’re a frostpacker, as then the torment is never ending, because that case there is never bliss regardless the amount of ignorance involved. 😏 🍿 😈 🍿 Edit: Btw safe to assume this below no longer applies? > [@How Do You Find Joy?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-find-joy/465030/236): > > I’m always on the defensive about this when you attack. Please stop cyber bullying frosty, he found joy and you can’t take that away! ` found joy and you can’t take that away` 🤔 😇 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/714 "2024-10-28T19:09:50Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > the price of a mining permit is 10 million isk …and is subject to the usual market considerations. In order to cover the costs of ganking solo in the boondocks of Minmatar space I must set a realistic price for the (otherwise priceless) Permit. i Billion ISK is a steal. Ask anyone! I understand that you can win a 24-hour ‘Why Was I Ganked?’ Channel Pass if you correctly answer the Saviourette’s \*‘Questions Three’. Of course, that will be of improbable value to you if she is incommunicado where you and your troupe are concerned. \*It was a feature of the original Code of Conduct. The questions were posed by the Supreme Protector himself (James 315). If successful, the examinee earned a one-day reprieve. It is my understanding that the Monty Python Team tried to float a similar idea… ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/715 "2024-10-28T19:17:35Z")
I’m anyone so I’ll answer. Don’t buy mining permits. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/716 "2024-10-28T19:29:31Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’ll answer. Don’t buy mining permits. Luckily for those of us flogging Mining Permits, nothing appearing in the C&P Sub-Forum is likely to be seen by more than ~20 players - including, of course, your cruel exhortation. ---
**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/717 "2024-10-28T19:42:58Z")
Mining permits are great, I can mine the glazes, and run the content in safety’s domain with little issue. It’s not 100% safe, but nothing ever is. The only drawback I’ve encountered so far is the jealousy of other none card holding members. But that’s what the catalysts and mallers are for. What you don’t understand is how fast you can get glaze into Jita for signing up, and how fast you make that isk back. It’s like signing for a cash rewards card that you have to put money forward going into. Safety only asks that you pay it forward and not bot because of how frustrating it is for single pilot miners to get shoved around by multi box fleets Aiko = Friend To All ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/718 "2024-10-29T04:45:48Z")
It had been said that when a miner tries to talk about the new costs of your so called miner permit then that miner is making a big deal out of something when entirely unwarranted and that miner was being petty and one who is of little importance or value. All this time I had thought that all miners having secondary rank. So now some pilot wants to try and teach me to be better but only if I behave nicely. It was not my first time being Channel blocked. My only complaint is that I was invited to that cool T-W-S Grill channel When I read the title I had though it was a venting channel to grill over the issue at hand Petra\_Angeles Best that you delete my contact as I deleted that evemail. You are not my Princess! ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/719 "2024-10-29T05:07:09Z")
Your second evemail said it all no reason to continue that path ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/720 "2024-10-29T07:26:10Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > ![sample-fd88b417a96c9097e2e251b5b333f1bcaa57c802e5f57babe14b8de7e95650a8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/9/1c9b7c513a38e7c9fc4ec7d011c627baf9f4c23c.png) ![1_OQ5U0vPuB7AdYdzHRgd_DA](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/7/c57e084d3c362c6596c86658aee12dcb8f5f136e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/721 "2024-10-29T10:34:09Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > Your second evemail Hi Felix, I don’t believe I’ve ever sent you an Evemail. Are you sure you replied to the correct post? ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/722 "2024-10-29T20:26:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Recently, I sold twelve mining permits at the discounted wholesale rate, earning a nice 1.2 billion isk for a few minutes of minimal effort There’s sucker born every minute. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This raises an interesting philosophical question, which seems to be recurring. So then, the question of the day: **are mining permits real?** What are your thoughts Not real for me. I mine and dont have permit. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > What defines reality? Our brain. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > What constitutes ‘real’ in the sense of a fictitious videogame? The emotional conection the brain has with pixels. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Are mining permits part of the EvE Online canon? I dont known but you should, you sell them. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > However, some people claim mining permits are not real! > How can this be? Probly people who dont pay for them. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Are those people trying to troll us, or scam new players into getting themselves ganked? I don’t understand I think you understand very well. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I bought one mining permit for 10 million isk in 2018, and because of that I won hundreds of billions of isk and my own personal vanity alliance. I’d say permits are both real and powerful! Very good. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Is it not true that mining permits are widely sold across nullsec, lowsec, and the crabberholes? Is it not true that every capsuleer has a choice: either to pay for a permit, or die? I dont know. Maybe. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > The very existence of mining permits, widely published within the biographies of thousands of capsuleers, is itself indicative of a very real phenomenon Yes, those who pay for permit cant deny existance of it. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I find it fascinating that real mining permits are often layered in such a way that a miner will generally need to obtain MULTIPLE mining permits. I am currently exploring various ways to mirror this reality in EvE Online Good luck with that and permits and evrything while I continue to ignore the existance of permit. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/723 "2024-10-29T20:27:47Z")
> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#): > > I continue to ignore the existance of permit. Doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/724 "2024-10-29T20:32:10Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Doubt What about? I doubt or you doubt? One word sentence dificult to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/725 "2024-10-29T20:37:55Z")
I guess she gone. Could not withstand the power of my gaze 👀 ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/726 "2024-10-29T20:57:22Z")
Love how the man-child comes out in people. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/727 "2024-10-29T21:11:15Z")
Hi Sasha, how are things with your hangers? Anything undocking or whatever you do in New Eden? ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/728 "2024-10-29T21:29:45Z")
O just the usual, Felix. You know, flogging Permits, bumping miners, mixing it up a bit. I’ve decided to do the Minmatar Epic Arc (‘Wildfire’), only because I’ve not done any of them since ‘The Blood-Stained Stars’, all those years ago! My hangars are fine, robust, but swollen with junk and obsolete modules. I really must have a clear-out some day… I hope you (and your troupe of players) are well! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/729 "2024-10-29T22:10:37Z")
I’ve already been given permission to mine without a permit. ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/730 "2024-10-29T22:32:57Z")
> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#): > > I guess she gone Regular players like us are not worthy of a few words from her. Better mute and move on, sweetie. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=35) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=37)