# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 41

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/812 "2025-04-21T17:28:38Z")

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Mining permits are nothing more than kids trying to tell someone in real life that they can or can’t do anything because anti-miner doesn’t like it. Because only the anti-miner believes everyone should think and be like the anti-miner.

The whole anti-mining thing was beaten to a dead horse during the Defias days and is nothing but a rebranding of the Defias Brotherhood.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/813 "2025-04-22T01:10:50Z")

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Mining permits. Paying for that is a absurd idea for an active player.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/814 "2025-04-22T12:09:44Z")

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Mining permits are like squatters, K.H. sthu. Now, squatters go into a house and claim it as their own.

Anti-miners have claimed the belts belong to them and that they have every right to destroy and take what they perceive as their property.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/815 "2025-04-22T15:35:24Z")

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I am an ANTIMINER and I have EVERY RIGHT to _ **DESTROY!!!** _

🔥

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/816 "2025-04-22T17:17:49Z")

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And we miners have every right to laugh in your face.

 ![merlin_162072966_bd8516b3-d17e-4940-9017-e1a39f3486c3-superJumbo](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/f/e2fffde0d137f554b72b9e982920d6b97821a666.jpeg)

I’ll get the Skiff warmed up

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/9/d/d9de776c2e2f1a19d1aa03ce19d43303a7461f85.jpeg "Skiff Cinematic Reveal - Eve Online") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGQS_jG0gM)

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/817 "2025-04-23T07:33:15Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Anti-min0rs

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> And we min0r

Perverts

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/818 "2025-04-23T10:41:05Z")

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Minzeror is not a word.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/819 "2025-04-24T05:43:24Z")

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Many gankers seem like they enjoy reading their own comments in local!

Most Gankers are ramblers!

I personally enjoy reading their ramblings

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/820 "2025-04-24T10:19:31Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> nothing but a rebranding of the Defias Brotherhood.

It has come to my attention that not only does **Mr Bennington** have a potty mouth, but he also likes having his **ass whooped** by the Defias Brotherhood.

Due to his sacrifice of multiple **Proteus** to the brotherhood over the years , he may purchase a **mining permit** at a special price of **5 billion ISK**.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/821 "2025-04-24T11:11:51Z")

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You’ve lost a couple of T3 cruisers back in the day 😀

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/822 "2025-04-24T14:04:50Z")

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The weird thing is why Null Capsuleers are Losing against Highsec Gankers. Those billions worth of cargos aren’t produced from Highsec. I think Highsec Gankers are more United and organized than Null Sec Alliances and Corporations.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/823 "2025-04-24T14:41:35Z")

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The F1 monkeys are no match for Aiko’s flying monkeys.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/824 "2025-04-24T14:45:10Z")

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Aiko and her bumbling fools are the F1 monkeys. That’s how you gank- you warp to fleet member, target, and hit F1. They’re the definition of an F1 monkey. Miners have two lasers that won’t stack. You have to turn on each one independently. Miners can’t be F1 monkeys.

A destroyer’s 7 weapons have to be stacked in order for maximum effect. All that’s triggered by the push of the F1 key. Even if you’re pushing F1 before targeting, you’re still hitting F1.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/825 "2025-04-24T14:59:40Z")

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If you’re firing all of your mining lasers at the same rock, you’re doing it wrong…

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/826 "2025-04-24T15:02:00Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Aiko and her bumbling fools are the F1 monkeys

**Rubbish** , meanwhile - as daylight fades, a silent hunter stalks. For the first time ever, under the cover of complete darkness, see her strike. With special cameras, go on the hunt with EVE’s most successful big cat. Enter the hidden world of **gankers of the night**.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/827 "2025-04-24T15:21:06Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> If you’re firing all of your mining lasers at the same rock, you’re doing it wrong…

If you’re that concerned about ISK per minute, you’re doing it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/828 "2025-04-24T15:35:39Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> If you’re firing all of your mining lasers at the same rock, you’re doing it wrong…

really? So I’m doing it wrong when I fire my civilian mining lasers on a One chunk of veldspar?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/829 "2025-04-24T15:53:47Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> when I fire my civilian mining lasers

Zaera recommends **self destruction**

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/830 "2025-07-14T17:10:47Z")

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A post and comment section from r/Eve related to this subject:

> # Paying for permit?
> 
> Sooo, I am running missions for around 10,4k lp per burner in hi sec.
> 
> I could run them for over 17k per burner in a relatively quiet low sec. I saw a specific (pretty small) group being active and killing 2 to 3 ratters/miners/mission runners per day in the area, so I contacted them if I could buy a permit from them.
> 
> They offered a permit for 1.5b per month which I would recoup with about 70 burner missions, so 2 to 3 per day. At my current amount of playtime I do maybe 5 burners a day on average. So it would be a net win.
> 
> I still think it is better to pass on it because
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> a) the permit is only for their alliance
> 
> b) I am pretty sure they will either hunt me on their alts or “sell me” to other alliances/corps they are friends with.
> 
> c) getting stuff shipped safely out of LS is more expensive than from HS
> 
> Did anyone ever buy a permit like that and was it worth it for them in hindsight?
> 
> I guess one way could also be to ask to join them, but I am kind of a lone wolf guy who hates obligations and I don’t think my killboard would fit well into their corps.

`Source and discussion:` [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1lzij09/paying\_for\_permit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1lzij09/paying_for_permit/)

🤔

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/832 "2025-07-14T19:02:32Z")

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This was one week from being closed. Look at what you did.

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