# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/144 "2024-09-22T18:15:04Z")

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Agree to disagree then as I still think I didn’t make an error

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/145 "2024-09-22T19:14:59Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> I still think I didn’t make an error

You did.

I suggest that you appologise immediately to SAFETY. , the true high sec gankers, and send **Aiko** sufficient compensation for your error.

And while you are at it, stop picking on **goonswarm** 🤣

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/146 "2024-09-22T19:24:41Z")

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SAFETY are a bunch of cowards as well. I see no need to apologize to them, as I do not fly untanked Retrievers and that appears to be the only thing they pose a threat to

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/147 "2024-09-22T19:30:20Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> I do not fly untanked Retrievers

So you are a coward?

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/148 "2024-09-22T19:36:11Z")

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You don’t fly untanked Retrievers in high sec lol, that’s just asking for trouble. Do you mind if I ask, are you quite new to the game? I would be more than happy to put you in touch with some alliances who can help you understand basic mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/149 "2024-09-22T19:37:13Z")

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Yes, can you help me plz?

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/150 "2024-09-22T19:41:11Z")

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My alliance doesn’t recruit new players, I would recommend you look at EVE Uni for that. They will show you the basics and give you a solid foundation on which to base your career in EVE. Good luck and have fun!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/151 "2024-09-22T19:42:00Z")

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I heard EvE Uni is a scam, can u recommend any other alliance?

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/152 "2024-09-22T19:43:18Z")

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Whoever told you that is winding you up. EVE Uni is a legitimate organization that goes back years.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/153 "2024-09-22T19:44:04Z")

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Ok, well, I would be more comfortable if you recommend someone else, my grandma always said a man who only recommends one option is either a fool or a liar. Maybe you are part of the EvE Uni scam, so your endorsement is insufficient.

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**Author:** ![Carlos\_Warren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carlos_warren/32/375535_2.png) [@Carlos\_Warren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carlos_Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/154 "2024-09-22T19:45:41Z")

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Ok we’ll leave it there, as I think you are maybe just looking for a reaction. Welcome to EVE all the same though and best of luck whichever group you decide to join!

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**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/155 "2024-09-22T19:54:23Z")

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You guys have Carlos Warren all wrong. He might be a belligerent ass who doesn’t communicate well with people, but I’m still in awe of this guy from last year when he got all of nullsec frothing at the mouth for weeks just by blowing up a few cyno vigil ships at funerals. It was hilarious. Keep up the good work, Carlos.

Also, he’s not wrong about EVE Uni. You could give it a try, Aiko. You might learn some stuff. Or corrupt the morals of the youth. Either way, could be fun.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/156 "2024-09-22T20:49:53Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> Welcome to EVE all the same though

Actually am new aswell.

Do you have any tips on how to fly a **Mobile Tractor Unit**?

And could you send me , I dunno, 1 billion ISK to replace the last one? Some tool from **The Sound of Thunder Alliance** called Carlos Warren, blew up my last one.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/157 "2024-09-22T20:51:42Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> stop being so pompous

Why should I? Does it affect you? In fact, I am simply being sincere. That I favour a formal style is largely the consequence of my striving for precision in pursuit of the avoidance of doubt.

You wrote ‘gankers’; you apparently intended ‘BLACKFLAG’. Had you been as diligent in the accurate relaying of facts as I have found it necessary to be in order to correct you, none of this need have been said.

You made an error; ‘BLACKFLAG’ is not a suicide-ganking organisation. Just admit it, and move on.

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**Author:** ![Zedminer\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedminer_severasse/32/377928_2.png) [@Zedminer\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedminer_Severasse)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/159 "2024-09-22T21:36:24Z")

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You need to tell princess that will cost a billion isk for the reference! As Joe Biden would say “Come on man”

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/160 "2024-09-22T21:49:30Z")

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He has no idea who the **Princess** is, her magnificence, or what a ganker is. The state of **Gallente education** is shocking.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/3/a/73a5c473585fd3755470886689e259d703ae7a2c.gif)  
1 billion fine for ignorance

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/161 "2024-09-22T22:29:52Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> SAFETY are a bunch of cowards as well.

The gankee actually has the full power and DPS of invincible Concord behind him…so all this ’ unarmed ships ’ stuff is nonsense. Concord acts as his DPS. Where else in the game do people take on an invincible force ? This means gankers _have_ to score…and get it right first time. There is no room for error. Anyone who’s actually swooped in with a gank fleet ( I have ) knows it is a heart pounding moment.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/162 "2024-09-22T22:42:38Z")

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**Author:** ![Okada\_Aivoras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/okada_aivoras/32/494420_2.png) [@Okada\_Aivoras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Okada_Aivoras)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/163 "2024-09-22T23:40:28Z")

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I am not satisfied with the direction this thread is taking.

There actually was a real topic for it.  
And now it is on the way to become just another ‘gankers are mean’-thread.

I wish that the lot of you (except Aiko of course) make up your minds and make this a great thread.  
can’t be that hard to stay on topic, damnit!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/164 "2024-09-23T00:21:44Z")

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> [@Okada\_Aivoras](#):
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> can’t be that hard to stay on topic, damnit!

Now carry this over to everyday life. Don’t you think it would be boring if in every conversation you had to stay on topic, no humor, no disagreement, no mischief, no GIFS, no fun?.

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