# Once again, may be back for some Eve; what is the best PvE content as of now, and how to do it?

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**Created:** [December 1, 2024, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/once-again-may-be-back-for-some-eve-what-is-the-best-pve-content-as-of-now-and-how-to-do-it/469802 "2024-12-01T10:16:32Z")\
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Been on and off for years, going way way back. Each time I peak my nose in Eve again I need to start over again, kinda.

So, as of now, what is the best content to do for a returning player, PvE wise? Excursions? Season stuff? Ratting?

Advice on prereqs for those activities?

Looking for good PvE content that give good rewards. Most my ships are in high sec, some stuff stuck in PvP null sec, but most of that was sold off I think.

Open for ideas and advices…

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
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Depends on what area of space (high-sec, low-sec, null-sec, wormhole, abyssal, etc.) High-sec, you have:

• L4 missions (blitz+burner, salvage, clears)  
• T4 and higher Abyssal filaments  
• Incursions, Homefront Operations  
• Winter Nexus event (December; no full details out yet)

L4 missions will be the lowest risk (0.7-0.9 space); Abyssals you can make a lot more but you risk losing your ship and pod. You also need to run T4 Abyssals in 0.6 space or higher to avoid suspect status.

Incursions and Homefront Operations are more team-based activities, and they usually have set ship fits and requirements.

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**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\
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> [@Chasida](#):
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> what is the best content to do for a returning player, PvE wise?

Mining.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> Mining.

Sure, if Netflix is your thing.

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**Author:** ![Chasida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chasida/32/397987_2.png) [@Chasida](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chasida)\
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And the dens etc that spawn escalations? Or scan for escalation sites without getting the message?

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hehehe thanks yeah, THAT is too boring 🙂

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> [@Chasida](#):
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> And the dens etc that spawn escalations? Or scan for escalation sites without getting the message?

They’re not as common in high-sec, but they can drop from some of the combat sites. They’re limited to the lowest level of escalations, though. There’s also exploration, etc. - but you probably already know about those activities.

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**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\
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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> if Netflix is your thing

I don’t have TV service in my communications pack, only Internet.  
I’m mining _now_ and spending time on the forum. Does that count as AFK? 🙂

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**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\
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> [@Chasida](#):
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> THAT is too boring

Depends on your definition of “boring” 😄

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If you go on YouTube or search around, you’ll hear things like 400m ISK/hour in high-sec. As with anything, **take these kind of comments with a grain of salt**.

Yes, you can earn upwards of 200m ISK/hour running normal (non-burner) L4s. This is the exception rather than the rule. A good average is 60-100m ISK/hour if you blitz, salvage where it’s profitable, run clears where there are good bounties and run the occasional burner mission (as well as run for a corporation that provides good return on ISK/LP).

Blitzing with burners can net you upwards of 300m ISK/hour, but you need very specialized ships, mission pullers and burnout/mission fatigue does set in.  
…

Marauders are the ticket if you want to approach any kind of reasonable ISK/hour return for standard L4s.

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> 400m ISK/hour

How much fun/hour is that?

Is it like Netflix/hour? I don’t know because I don’t watch Netflix but you seem like a connoisseur.

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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> How much fun/hour is that?

The odd session where I do hit that (uncommon), it’s a lot of fun, to be honest.

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> it’s a lot of fun, to be honest.

I don’t regard watching numbers go up as fun but you do you, Netflix lover.

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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> I don’t regard watching numbers go up as fun but you do you, Netflix lover.

To each their own, but it’s often YouTube (Netflix puts too much of a strain on my CPU for whatever reason).

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> but it’s often YouTube

It’s funny how as soon as someone mentions mining some people automatically assume Netflix or AFK.  
You people have no imagination whatsoever.

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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> It’s funny how as soon as someone mentions mining some people automatically assumes Netflix or AFK.  
> You people have no imagination whatsoever.

Netflix used to be the Gold standard for mining (I’m sure it’s something else like YouTube or Twitch now). If you’re more “creative” than that - more power to you! I have nothing personal against mining or any other activity.

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> If you’re more “creative” than that - more power to you!

I’m mining _now_ and I’m in 0.3 I have to watch for NPC enemies _and_ other players. I have no time to waste on YouTube and looking at the cool backdrop of space fills in the monotony.  
I’m sure I’m not the only pilot who feels this way.  
Those who automatically think _AFK_ or _Netflix_ are small-minded and, in the forum, basically trolls.  
( I don’t think you’re either of those though )

> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> I have nothing personal against mining or any other activity

No, I understand. You just demonstrated how group-think works is all.

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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> No, I understand. You just demonstrated how group-think works is all.

I used to mine (long, long ago) - and I did watch Netflix to pass the time. So not so much “group-think” - but more personal experience. The only occasional mining I do now is just for my dailies.

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> I used to mine (long, long ago) - and I did watch Netflix to pass the time

Aah, so you weren’t a _real_ miner then. It’s okay, not everyone can be.

> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> The only occasional mining I do now is just for my dailies

So you’re an opportunistic miner. Nothing wrong with that.

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> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#):
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> Aah, so you weren’t a _real_ miner then. It’s okay, not everyone can be.

As **real** as time and Netflix afforded. lol  
But I never went beyond Orcas.

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