# One Final Ride into the Breach CSM Vily 16 **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Created:** [May 11, 2021, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551 "2021-05-11T05:36:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bigbillthaboss3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigbillthaboss3/32/260923_2.png) [@bigbillthaboss3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigbillthaboss3)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/22 "2021-05-11T16:08:50Z")
Thank you for the clarity, and also confirming that you were involved with the leadership at this time. It just befuddles me as to why you would work so diligently on alienating such a large group of players using a base of reasoning comprised of alleged wrongdoing or nefarious actions while you, yourself, were involved with the decision makers during this tainted historical blip of Goonswarm. Shouldn’t a CSM be upfront about any negative affiliations they were a part of, especially if that same CSM member uses it regularly as a beacon for conjuring more disdain against a group? I understand that you, as you allege, had no control over CI but wouldn’t that be the same, using an analogy here, as claiming Enron’s COO had nothing to do with their CFO’s actions? As a CSM I feel as though you should not want to kill off any particular group, yet your rhetoric seems to claim otherwise. What are your thoughts about CSM members sharing the opinions that large % of the playerbase should be eradicated from the game? ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agent_estemaire/32/262443_2.png) [@Agent\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agent_Estemaire)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/23 "2021-05-11T18:51:15Z")
Sounds incredibly narcissistic ---
**Author:** ![Isaac\_Collins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isaac_collins/32/268473_2.png) [@Isaac\_Collins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isaac_Collins)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/24 "2021-05-11T20:42:45Z")
I don’t see progodlegend’s endorsement, so I have no plans of voting for you. Rules are rules. ---
**Author:** ![Vily](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vily/32/485043_2.png) [@Vily](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vily)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/25 "2021-05-11T22:49:31Z")
fair enough my man, there is invariably a fine line between confidence and conceit. ---
**Author:** ![Cicada\_Adacic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cicada_adacic/32/487434_2.png) [@Cicada\_Adacic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cicada_Adacic)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/26 "2021-05-11T22:56:38Z")
As a Null-sec inhabitant, I would never vote for anyone who helped Blue most of Null-sec to attack the Imperium. Gathering most of Null-sec to attack one Coalition seems like a very weak option. That is not the leader I would be looking for. I would not trust anything you say by the decisions you have made in the past. Actions speak louder than words, and in my opinion someone like you has nothing to offer as CSM and is bad for Eve. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Dirk\_Stetille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dirk_stetille/32/416382_2.png) [@Dirk\_Stetille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dirk_Stetille)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/27 "2021-05-11T23:29:05Z")
Okay, _I_ had to look up the definition of prosector, and I’m a serious words nerd. It turns out that a Prosector is “a person who dissects dead bodies for examination or anatomical demonstration”. I happen to believe that Vily was aiming for ‘prosecutor’, but unless he’s hauling goons up on charges under Texas Space Bird Law, he missed that too. Seriously, dude, the words you use matter. ---
**Author:** ![Konstantin\_Surovij](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/konstantin_surovij/32/272042_2.png) [@Konstantin\_Surovij](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Konstantin_Surovij)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/28 "2021-05-12T00:35:04Z")
A huge figure in the Eve community definitely should be a part of CSM. ---
**Author:** ![eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/32/268419_2.png) [@eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/29 "2021-05-12T00:47:37Z")
this insanely long effort post pushed me towards supporting you then i actually read the whole ass thing and now i have no opinion whatsoever…am not a politics person 😑 ---
**Author:** ![C-137](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/c-137/32/146166_2.png) [@C-137](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/C-137)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/30 "2021-05-12T01:42:35Z")
Do you intend to continue your coalition to harass and dictate the game-play of a large group of players as you currently are? ---
**Author:** ![Vily](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vily/32/485043_2.png) [@Vily](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vily)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/31 "2021-05-12T02:13:25Z")
against the imperium? With everything i’ve got ---
**Author:** ![LightMonk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lightmonk/32/391733_2.png) [@LightMonk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LightMonk)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/32 "2021-05-12T12:31:36Z")
If you could change 3 things in EVE, what would they be? ---
**Author:** ![Xenuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xenuria/32/264531_2.png) [@Xenuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xenuria)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/33 "2021-05-13T13:48:34Z")
I’m not your bud, pal! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/34 "2021-05-13T19:59:56Z")
> [@Vily](#): > > I would stay in goons for five years, leading and commanding in goons through many of their foundational moments. I would leave six months before wwb1 and head off to test where i would end up being one of their prosectors. From there i would stay in test for the next five years, taking the rebounding alliance from a player to a mega-player and being an important part of the current wars in play. So, let’s just give this the appropriate levels of clarity: > [@Vily](#): > > I would stay in goons for five years, leading and commanding in goons through many of their foundational moments. I would leave six months before wwb1, completely of my own volition, despite later claiming I was fired. Then I would head off to test where I would end up being one of their [prosectors]_1_. From there I would stay in test for the next five years, relying heavily on the support of the Imperium to take the rebounding alliance from a player to a mega-player in nullsec. > > Then I made sure to cozy up to the northern landlord coalition of PanFam and establish the Tranquility Trade Consortium, siphoning your money from highsec into the pockets of nullsec—with the largest part of the Perimeter keepstar’s money going to my alliance—including making sure the other large alliance in my coalition collects none of their share. I would also go on to declare myself ‘the saviour_2_ of highsec’ during the Triglavian invasion, and swear on the EDENCOM discord that Niarja would not fall, before being unable to marshal a single fleet from my alliance to defend Niarja. > > I would go on to be an important part of the current wars in play. In this role, I engage in a lot of posturing and issuing grandiose declarations, while using other peoples’ alliances as meatshields to fail at things my own coalition cannot muster enough manpower to even attempt. FTFY. I started off just getting peeved at the way you’d inconsistently capitalize ‘I’. I mean, look at this, man: > [@Vily](#): > > I know that there is certainly no love lost between myself and many of the players of eve_3_ but i will say this. I care for eve and wish to protect it anyway i can. We may not see eye to eye but i will do whatever i can to protect it. Sure, you said ‘well written part ends’ (which, you know, is itself poorly-written, as ‘well-written’ should be hyphenated), but _you are literally putting this in with an interface that has built-in spellcheck_. When you put this in, the machine was telling you ‘those lower-case i’s are wrong, dude’. So, you know, that irked me. Because I hate lazy, shoddy workmanship when people are writing things. But even more, I hate lazy, shoddy, low-effort crap from people who are asking me to believe they will be industrious, pay attention to detail, and put in the level of effort that a position like the CSM deserves. * * * 1. Seriously, Vily, this is not a thing you want to claim. This means you’re claiming to have been dissecting TEST’s corpse for the last six years. WTF, man? 2. I originally didn’t have the ‘u’ in here, but I was reminded that you’re Canadian, so it should be the British spelling. Though I don’t remember whether you insist on e-honor or e-honour, so you might tend toward American spelling. YMMV 3. Also, CCP uses ‘EVE’, with all capital letters, so it kinda seems like if you want us to believe you pay attention to detail, that’s a place where you’d get the details right. I dunno, maybe it’s just me that wants _competent_ CSMs… ---
**Author:** ![progodlegend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/progodlegend/32/272531_2.png) [@progodlegend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/progodlegend)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/35 "2021-05-14T15:34:09Z")
I endorse Vily ---
**Author:** ![bigbillthaboss3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigbillthaboss3/32/260923_2.png) [@bigbillthaboss3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigbillthaboss3)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/36 "2021-05-14T16:29:35Z")
I do not endorse your endorsement. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/37 "2021-05-15T05:18:33Z")
I’m sure we’re all shocked. What’s next? Will Mittens endorse his own Chief of Staff?!? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! ---
**Author:** ![Raifaisen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raifaisen/32/242991_2.png) [@Raifaisen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raifaisen)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/38 "2021-05-18T09:40:18Z")
o7 Greetings Vily sadly you could answer on TQ I am Raifaisen and i contact you, since you are a CSM member and the rest of your Alliance doesnt give a crap.(your diplos told me they dont care about your bots!!!) Your renting Alliance Living Breathing Fuel Blocks is host of a lot of botting corps like People Deny Super , Federal Armed Force 01 and a bunch more that are all botting in the Region of Omist. I think we need to do more then only wait for ccp to ban them (with they do really often). If everyone denies botting corps acces to sov space they wont be as present. I hope you are intrested in this, and can start fight against botting =). Since you wanna go for CSM i want to know your opinion on that topic Greetings Raifaisen ---
**Author:** ![Raifaisen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raifaisen/32/242991_2.png) [@Raifaisen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raifaisen)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/39 "2021-05-19T19:24:03Z")
still intrested !" ---
**Author:** ![Parkbank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/parkbank/32/361739_2.png) [@Parkbank](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Parkbank)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/40 "2021-05-19T19:31:50Z")
I get mails at least 1 a week of all the Test Bots being banned in Omist. Idk guys. You need ISK? Should we do a fundraising to stop your need of bots? Any way you think we can solve this? Your alliance diplos dont seem to care at all judigng by their repsonses. ---
**Author:** ![Ragnarr\_Ragnarrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragnarr_ragnarrson/32/74767_2.png) [@Ragnarr\_Ragnarrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragnarr_Ragnarrson)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-final-ride-into-the-breach-csm-vily-16/310551/41 "2021-05-19T19:49:06Z")
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