# One line "feature i want to see removed" thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [July 21, 2017, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267 "2017-07-21T08:19:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/21 "2017-07-22T11:07:09Z")

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Remove Static Belts every where,  
Replace with anoms, appropriate sized and numerous enough though on random timers to replace the m3 of a system in a 24hr cycle.

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**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/22 "2017-07-23T01:08:51Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> Nope. Your perspective is way too narrow and needs widening.
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> It isn’t supposed to be fun when you make a mistake. That’s what increased the realism, because it didn’t protect you from your mindlessness. That’s what added character to the game, because then you bitched about your own stupidity. Shielding people from their stupidity is bad, because it prevents people from improving.
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> And talking about the security button only using words CCP used to sell it to you dismisses you from any serious discussion about it, because the security button had actual, lasting cultural consequences for this game and goes way beyond what they told you it’s supposed to be doing! It is a psychological deterrent and, combined with suspect state, it’s extremely effective at teaching new players to not even get the idea of doing what grew this game’s culture for over a decade!
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> Years ago members of CCP thought it was brilliant that people just stole cans. Brilliant! New players just did it to do something daring. something they knew no other game offers. something they knew makes sense and is perfectly fine to do! It raised retention and grew the game thanks to fear of the unknown and omg what’s going to happen! Adrenaline gets people hooked!
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> Just because you don’t see the bigger picture of things, doesn’t mean that bigger picture doesn’t exist! And the security button in no way or form helps anyone with the UI, hell, this doesn’t even make logical sense! What kind of selling point is that? It prevents a few pop-ups! Wow! they must have been really hard to deal with!
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> Wow. Just wow. 😃

IMO you’re the one with the overly narrow perspective here. There are interesting mistakes and then there are boring ones. Forgetting your cargo is a boring mistake. As I said there’s nothing interesting about forgetting your cargo for a mission, and really there’s nothing to improve there either. Everyone’s going to forget it sooner or later, whether due to tiredness or lack of attention, but there’s nothing to learn from there.

The safety does prevent UI issues, because there are plenty of paths in the UI that lead to a player shooting someone unintentionally, for example your target dies, you have an ally targeted, and you just pushed the button to activate an offensive module. Yes, the popups blocked that before, but the problem with those is they also blocked other UI actions where the safety doesn’t. Same result, much more elegant solution that doesn’t block other parts of the UI.

Also the idea that these relatively small changes have substantively changed the culture of the game or impacted its popularity is ridiculous. The most popular expansion in Eve’s history was the one that introduced Wormholes, which were half PvE and half 0.0 space, neither of which have anything to do with ganking or safeties.

The idea that Eve lives or dies based on the ability of people to make arbitrarily small screwups in High Sec is ridiculous. Intentional errors make for better stories and less resentment on both sides, which helps player retention.

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**Author:** ![Cindy\_the\_Sewer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cindy_the_sewer/32/10425_2.png) [@Cindy\_the\_Sewer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cindy_the_Sewer)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/23 "2017-07-23T20:03:24Z")

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any small object that you name is only seen by you or your corp/alliance and nobody else, thus getting rid of a ton of space trash advertisements in essence.

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**Author:** ![StonerPhReaK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stonerphreak/32/391015_2.png) [@StonerPhReaK](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/StonerPhReaK)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/24 "2017-07-24T00:38:41Z")

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Gasclouds in combat anomalies can get the boot. They cloud up the scenery from the pretty explosions.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/25 "2017-07-24T08:01:01Z")

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you mean “can”, right?

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**Author:** ![Ivory\_Harcourt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivory_harcourt/32/368154_2.png) [@Ivory\_Harcourt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivory_Harcourt)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/26 "2017-07-26T22:18:48Z")

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I want to remove empty space in the layout of this stupid forum. Thank you in advance.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/27 "2017-07-27T09:31:58Z")

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less crap on screen is actually a good thing, because readers don’t get tunnel vision that easily from all the information on screen the brain has to filter out, like on the old forums. it was a wise choice.

thanks for your input, though!

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/28 "2017-07-27T17:44:26Z")

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Antiganking aka Concord km whoring

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/29 "2017-07-27T20:50:43Z")

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The PI Click-Fest…

–Gadget votes repeal then replace.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/30 "2017-07-28T12:00:30Z")

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Definitely local.  
And t3’s.

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**Author:** ![Ivory\_Harcourt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivory_harcourt/32/368154_2.png) [@Ivory\_Harcourt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivory_Harcourt)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/31 "2017-08-01T17:18:36Z")

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Less crap on screen? Now there’s more crap on screen and much less actual info.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/32 "2017-08-02T09:42:06Z")

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You can’t have “more wasted space” and “more crap on screen” at the same time, so which is it?

anyway this isn’t really a thread for bigger discussions, though, so i won’t go beyond one/two-liners in here. maybe there’s a thread about this somewhere already.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Frog\_Rufen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_frog_rufen/32/166556_2.png) [@Red\_Frog\_Rufen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Frog_Rufen)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/33 "2017-08-02T12:35:09Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> Nope. Your perspective is way too narrow and needs widening.
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> It isn’t supposed to be fun **when you make a mistake**. That’s what increased the realism, because **it didn’t protect you from your mindlessness**. That’s what added character to the game, **because then you bitched about your own stupidity**. Shielding people from their stupidity is **bad** , because **it prevents people from improving**.

no, it’s just frustrating. Even in real life, you forget things all the time. Forgetting the cargo will never make you learn or improve. Even in real life, more tools are invented to remind you of what you forgot to do. That’s not stupidity, that’s just a trait of some people.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/34 "2017-08-02T12:59:26Z")

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it is stupidity. (to use your own wording)

what else is it, when you keep making the same mistake without learning?

you frustrate yourself. when you make a tool to prevent you from being frustrated enough that you stop making the mistake, then you can not improve. you will be dependent on being shielded and remain blissfully, and unaware, stupid.

why don’t we all migrate discussions to a different thread?

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**Author:** ![Pestilen\_Ratte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pestilen_ratte/32/42087_2.png) [@Pestilen\_Ratte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pestilen_Ratte)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/35 "2017-08-03T09:52:20Z")

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Local in null.

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**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-line-feature-i-want-to-see-removed-thread/11267/36 "2017-08-11T11:55:42Z")

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Billboards (pointless things that they are)

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