# One wallet and inventory for all characters on the same account! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 6, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408 "2024-12-06T22:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/81 "2024-12-08T22:06:02Z")
Depends how tf hard something like this is. Keep in mind all the “small ■■■■” topic, wasnt really easy for the devs to do or able to do ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/82 "2024-12-08T22:09:06Z")
> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > Same old bad arguments. Exploitable blah blah… I mean you can call them old, issue is they won’t stop being valid > [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > Again, same old arguments “lazy” “devs time” blah blah… Again, its got nothing to do with being lazy > [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > You need new ones and you need to get out from under that groove that make you guys reject everything that you didn’t come up with. I mean until you can prove it can’t or won’t be exploited then there isn’t a reason to even consider it when corporations exist and solve this problem already, there is no point adding a broken version of what we already have So by all means come up with some valid arguments for why this should exist and how it won’t be exploited > [@Kortanil](#): > > So you are OK with the game storing separate set of data for each character Yes, because that data is only accessed by a single client, it doesn’t get updated unless you do something, whereas with multiple people sharing it and view it the server has to do more work making sure all the clients are up to date, more chances for race conditions to break things etc ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/83 "2024-12-08T22:15:53Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > I mean you can call them old, issue is they won’t stop being valid They weren’t even valid _then_ > [@Cypherous](#): > > Again, its got nothing to do with being lazy Yes. You didn’t use the word “lazy” but re-read yourself: > [@Cypherous](#): > > they just take some actual effort compared to the no effort the OP currently seems to want Can you see what you mean or do you just string words together without minding wtf you mean? > [@Cypherous](#): > > I mean until you can prove it can’t or won’t be exploited then Oh hey… I’m going to bed. His idea is great and you guys are jealous that you didn’t come up with it. Good night. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/84 "2024-12-08T22:19:34Z")
> [@Kortanil](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > …And if you have negative standing with a Corp, all you’ll be able to access is Level 1 Agents and with the amount of LP’s they give out, it’ll take quite a long time before you’ll have enough LP’s to actually redeem an item… > > Except, that last part is half-true. I recently tanked on this char the standings of one of the corps by refusing to complete one of the story-line missions that I wrongly assumed was L1 when it was L4. That dropped the base standings by 3.179 points, so L3 and L4 agents became unavailable, and yet I could still use all the LPs I had accumulated up to this point! Wasn’t talking about a character dropping from +10 to -10 with a zillion LP’s already stored up.. Anyway, so you failed one Level 4 Storyline mission which cut out access to Level 3 and 4 agents, I highly doubt failing one mission would do that, especially with Social skills trained up. The only way to lose access to high level agents is for 1 or more of the 3 standings listed below to hit -2.00 standing. Agent standing Corporation standing Faction standing Now if it actually did happen, which I highly doubt, then you definitely need to train up Social skills asap.. Now about this thread idea, it actually goes against the very core of Eve in that actions have consequences. If your other characters haven’t earned any LP’s from a specific Corp, then put in some time and work those characters… Other than that, this thread is dead.. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/85 "2024-12-08T22:20:39Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > this thread is dead Not dead, complete. Good idea. Period. Goodnight. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/86 "2024-12-08T22:27:32Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Agent standing > Corporation standing > Faction standing Any time these show up in a thread, it will take some serious bona fides to sway me from accepting anything @DeMichael_Crimson has to say on the matter. He literally wrote the book on this stuff. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/87 "2024-12-09T01:59:21Z")
> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > They weren’t even valid _then_ And you’re allowed to have that opinion, doesn’t really change anything 🙂 > [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > Yes. You didn’t use the word “lazy” but re-read yourself: I don’t need to, nothing i said implied the devs were lazy or that it was too much effort, its a deliberate choice with valid enough reasoning behind it, it just happens you dislike and disagree with the reasoning, which is fine as you are allowed to dislike it > [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > His idea is great and you guys are jealous that you didn’t come up with it. Not in the slightest, because i’ve been able to do this for literal decades already, its not a new concept to me ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/88 "2024-12-09T05:59:11Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > because i’ve been able to do this for literal decades already, Except you have not. By ignoring the OP context of “creating a corporation does not do it”, you are completely off topic. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/89 "2024-12-09T07:06:27Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > i’ve been able to do this for literal decades You’ve been making bs arguments against good ideas for literal decades. ---
**Author:** ![Kortanil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kortanil/32/479855_2.png) [@Kortanil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kortanil)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/90 "2024-12-09T07:44:16Z")
> [@Wachutu](#): > > That’s the point of EVE’s design. As you said yourself, if you want everything shared, you need to put in the effort – creating a corporation, setting up infrastructure, and managing assets. This argument is as week as there are plenty of things we can do in the game that don’t require any effort - for example we can select all items in the ship’s cargo and dump them into the stations inventory with one drag-drop move! Imagine if that option wasn’t there but we had to move them ONE by ONE each stack individually, and some guy came on the forums suggesting “how about we select them all and move them all at the same time that would save us some time” and then you showed up with yours “that’s the EVE design, you need to put in the effort, so NO”! I am supposed to put the effort into creating a corp and renting a bunch of offices just so I can share the same wallet and inventory with all my chars?!? That should be reserved for dealing with other people. I already put in the effort when I earned the money I spent on the game I think that should do it! ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/91 "2024-12-09T07:50:00Z")
It’s also a very specially stupid argument, as it pretends that tediousness is a goal in a game design. It’s not. Tediousness is ALWAYS in the best case a costly workaround when devs can’t find an acceptable solution, in the worst case plainly detrimental to the game, as it makes legit players even worse than bots and encourages them to use bots instead of playing. There is NO situation where tediousness helps a game. It MAY make people more invested in a limited frame, but this is at the cost of making them less invested on the long term. ---
**Author:** ![Kortanil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kortanil/32/479855_2.png) [@Kortanil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kortanil)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/92 "2024-12-09T07:54:28Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Heh… Why would a Corp give access to their LP Store to a different character who hasn’t had any interaction with them… But they DO! And what you don’t seem to grasp is items bought from an LP store can be sold on the market and bought by someone who is could be hostile to the faction that the corp belongs to let alone have low ratings with them! If we use the other MMO’s as example - combat items like armor and weapons bought from faction vendors are either soul bound or account bound they can’t be sold/traded/mailed to another player and rightly so as the reputation gains are either char specific - WoW - or account specific - Guild wars 2 and SWTOR that’s not the case here which allows players to trade these items AND that removes the need to have standing limitations on LP store access. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/93 "2024-12-09T07:54:38Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > It’s also a very specially stupid argument **All** they have is BS arguments because they’re jealous that they couldn’t come up with a good idea to simplify player’s lives. Their whole attitude on this forum is _reject_ _reject_ _reject_… because it doesn’t take any effort. It’s simple-minded and trollish. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/94 "2024-12-09T07:57:44Z")
> [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](#): > > **All** they have is BS arguments because they’re jealous that they couldn’t come up with a good idea to simplify player’s lives. Don’t make the enemy more stupid than it is. I often witnessed people in this forum make up BS arguments because they have a vested interested in the proposal not being implemented. They are weaponing toxicity, with mass strawmen, victim blaming, trolls, plain insults, off topic claims, etc. Very often it’s about suicide gankers botters who are scared it would require a change to their gameplay, as you know they are the most lazy carebears in the game. The hard part is to make them spit the actual reasoning for which they are using toxicity in that specific thread. In the case of DMC it’s just a matter of ego, the guy can’t accept he was wrong. Just a loose screw, the guy is more fragile than gankers when CCP announces a buff to freighters (JK, nothing is more fragile but you get the idea). ---
**Author:** ![Kortanil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kortanil/32/479855_2.png) [@Kortanil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kortanil)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/95 "2024-12-09T08:01:10Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Yes, and you have your alts join said corporation, then you can give them access to said shared wallet and inventory, rocket science this is not I have done that and I have also explained why I prefer the option where I don’t have to use any of it for something that should have been in the game in the first place way before someone came with the idea “how about we add to the game something similar to what guilds or bands are in other games?”. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/96 "2024-12-09T08:04:02Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > They are weaponing toxicity, with mass strawmen, victim blaming, trolls, plain insults, off topic claims, etc They should be banned from the forum for that… then banned from the game. > [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > Very often it’s about suicide gankers botters who are scared it would require a change to their gameplay, as you know they are the most lazy carebears in the game I don’t doubt it. I wouldn’t be surprised if those carebears are also RMTers. It’s disgusting. > [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > In the case of DMC it’s just a matter of ego, the guy can’t accept he was wrong I can read that in his posts, looks like he thinks he’s the President of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/97 "2024-12-09T08:08:42Z")
> [@Kortanil](#): > > I have also explained why I prefer the option where I don’t have to use any of it for something that should have been in the game in the first place Looks like they can’t read, too. ---
**Author:** ![Kortanil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kortanil/32/479855_2.png) [@Kortanil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kortanil)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/98 "2024-12-09T08:18:19Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Not to dodge your point but EVE Online is a business simulator. No it’s not, only ONE out of the 24 skill groups is about Trading while 15 are about skills directly involved with blowing other ships to pieces! It doesn’t look like business simulator to me! ---
**Author:** ![YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yhwh_is_lord/32/444382_2.png) [@YHWH\_Is\_Lord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YHWH_Is_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/99 "2024-12-09T08:25:04Z")
> [@Kortanil](#): > > while 15 are about skills directly involved with blowing other ships to pieces! It doesn’t look like business simulator to me! 😅🤣😂 That day at the office was murder 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408/100 "2024-12-09T08:25:09Z")
I think he means that it tries to model the business part from RL studies. The issue is that it does not mean that the PLAYER interaction must be tedious. Just like, modeling a nuclear reaction does not require the computer to disintegrate during the process. (I did not read it before, the first “Eve is bzns sim” already says it’s making up facts that rely on and prove his point in a circular motion) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-wallet-and-inventory-for-all-characters-on-the-same-account/470408.md?page=6)