# One Way to Balance High-Security Space šŸ—” **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/564 "2022-09-29T20:05:57Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I enjoy ganking. > > Itā€™s fun. yeah yeah sounds lovely ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/565 "2022-09-29T20:17:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I enjoy ganking. > > Itā€™s fun. Yes, but ganking is very easy to avoid and isnā€™t a problem, so we must remove it in order to prevent players from leaving the game after being catastrophically affected by it because there was nothing they could do to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf\_Kruol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolf_kruol/32/429527_2.png) [@Wolf\_Kruol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolf_Kruol)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/566 "2022-09-29T22:00:27Z")
Iā€™ll post this quote I have in my bio that Iā€™ve lived by playing eve for over a decade. Because I fear every time CCP tweaks ā– ā– ā– ā–  in this game due to the baby whiners. Now we loose more of a sandbox game. [Quote= Malcanis] ā€œYou consent to PvP when you undock your ships, whether you accept this or not. There is no entitlement to safety.ā€ Iā€™ve understand eve and enjoy the good the bad and the ugly. Its what makes this game unique to othersā€¦ However I donā€™t like the way its going and see how ccp continues to destroy it in its quest to save face do the whinersā€¦ SOOOO CCP keep to the roots of eve and we be good. Capsuleers may the loot god grant you plentiful richesā€¦ Good hunting all. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/567 "2022-09-29T22:08:48Z")
Heh, lookie here, guess we got ourselves _another_ ganker alt shill on our hands. šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/568 "2022-09-29T22:52:16Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > chickened out of the bet? Did you expect me to take you seriously? CCP doesnā€™t give out dates. Within 6 months, Iā€™ll take that. > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > that is an alt Most people in the forums that have much in-game interaction wonā€™t give up their main. You can give up trying to talk me into it. Classic ganker tactics thoughā€¦ > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > a veteran carrying a set of capital BPOs What an idiotic interpretation. You guys are funny. Or is it just _ONE_ guy? * * * Itā€™s quite telling that players like @Destiny_Corrupted are willing to put so much effort into trying to defend ganking. I mean, really. Iā€™d be happy if all of Eve was 0.0. * * * > [@Wolf\_Kruol](#): > > ā€œYou consent to PvP when you undock your ships, whether you accept this or not. There is no entitlement to safety.ā€ Iā€™m pretty sure CCP Falcon said that first and you see what happened to himā€¦ * * * Criminals in this game and RL come up with all kinds of excuses for their actions. It almost always boils down to a lack of character and work ethic. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I enjoy ganking. I hope you grow out of that mindset. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/569 "2022-09-29T23:00:21Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Most people in the forums that have much in-game interaction wonā€™t give up their main. You can give up trying to talk me into it. No, just the wussies. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/570 "2022-09-29T23:00:37Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Did you expect me to take you seriously? CCP doesnā€™t give out dates. Within 6 months, Iā€™ll take that. LOL he called and you bluffed bro. Its that simple šŸ˜ƒ > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Most people in the forums that have much in-game interaction wonā€™t give up their main. You can give up trying to talk me into it. Classic ganker tactics thoughā€¦ This my main. Ainā€™t my fault youā€™re a coward šŸ˜ƒ > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Criminals in this game and RL come up with all kinds of excuses for their actions. It almost always boils down to a lack of character and work ethic. You know weā€™re playing a vidya game right? Right? šŸ˜ƒ > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > I hope you grow out of that mindset. Why? its an open PvP world šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/571 "2022-09-29T23:00:50Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No, just the wussies. QFT šŸ‘ ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/572 "2022-09-29T23:50:41Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No, just the wussies. You made me laugh. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/573 "2022-09-29T23:54:16Z")
Not hard enough to make the bollocks drop, apparently. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/9/989baf6de8ebf9a37f7965fb47b172a296a7a5ee.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/574 "2022-09-30T00:11:42Z")
Well, we know that apparently Kentuckians are afraid of peeps in a space vidya game so they hide their main šŸ˜ƒ Also, I wonder what the Vegas strip could offer us? ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/575 "2022-09-30T00:18:35Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > hard enough to make the bollocks drop Iā€™m American, so I apologize for not being 100% on the meaning of that phrase. I assume it means: * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/e/07e5dc10416085b403b509374fdf7f931c8a32b5.png) * * * Iā€™m willing to step back, take a fresh look at the bigger picture, and reconsider how I approach the subject. I would much rather make friends than enemies. I donā€™t see my overall opinion changing in regards to the mechanics to ganking, but I will try harder to show respect for other peopleā€™s opinions. * * * Just a side note, kudos for your W/L ratio on zKillz of 1,269/18. Very impressive. šŸ™Œ * * * ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/576 "2022-09-30T00:31:21Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > I donā€™t see my overall opinion changing in regards to the mechanics to ganking, but I will try harder to show respect for other peopleā€™s opinions. Hereā€™s the fundamental issue: itā€™s not a matter of respecting other peopleā€™s opinions (youā€™re not obligated to do that), but that youā€™re not playing the right game. In an open-world, full-loot PvP game, debates should focus on the mechanics behind the PvP, and not whether the open-world, full-loot PvP should exist at all. Itā€™s like coming into a bar and getting into an argument with the other patrons about whether or not drinking alcohol should be allowed by law. Of course you _can_ do this anyway; you have the right to voice your opinions about nearly anything. But why would you? Why not just go and join the community of a game in a genre thatā€™s in line with your desires? If youā€™re a decent human being, thereā€™s really no need to ā– ā– ā– ā–  up the community of a game that was never meant to be enjoyable for you. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/577 "2022-09-30T00:44:34Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If youā€™re a decent human being, thereā€™s really no need to ā– ā– ā– ā–  up the community of a game that was never meant to be enjoyable for you. I"m not exactly sure what you mean. Are you referring to the entire Eve Community? I hope youā€™re only pointing to the specific area of ganking. The game has always been enjoyable to me. So again, Iā€™m not sure of your meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/578 "2022-09-30T00:47:44Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > I"m not exactly sure what you mean. Are you referring to the entire Eve Community? I hope youā€™re only pointing to the specific area of ganking. The game has always been enjoyable to me. So again, Iā€™m not sure of your meaning. You know exactly what she means, Youā€™re just ducking it šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/579 "2022-09-30T00:56:43Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > CCP doesnā€™t give out dates. Within 6 months, Iā€™ll take that. So by the end of February 2023, the prediction is: > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Ganking in HS will end soon. I promise you. Weā€™ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/580 "2022-09-30T01:29:11Z")
@Destiny_Corrupted Thanks for staying true to form. Even when I presented an olive branch you told me to quit the game. This can only mean one thing. Youā€™re scared. Winter is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/581 "2022-09-30T01:37:43Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Thanks for staying true to form. Even when I presented an olive branch you told me to quit the game. > > This can only mean one thing. Youā€™re scared. > > Winter is coming. Bro, how can you say this with a straight face? Honestly? Also uh, youā€™re the one afraid to post with your main šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/582 "2022-09-30T01:41:42Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Just a side note, kudos for your W/L ratio on zKillz of 1,269/18. Very impressive. šŸ™Œ she is awesome isnā€™t she i have a lot of ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  excuses to say that Iā€™m awesome like her but Iā€™m notā€¦ probably thats why she donā€™t want me to move to her apartment ā˜¹ maybe wen she gets older ā€¦ them she will want all my money ā€¦ i digressā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/583 "2022-09-30T03:11:56Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Thanks for staying true to form. Even when I presented an olive branch you told me to quit the game. No, I didnā€™t tell you to quit the game. Iā€™m simply questioning your decision to play it in the first place. Look, Iā€™m not into FIFA. Do I go on the FIFA forums and ask them to add a battle soccer mode, or let me have a team full of anime girls? I donā€™t, right? I go play some some Blood Bowl while a season of Fate is running on the TV in the background. You know, like a **normal** person. So why go on the forums of an open-world PvP game and ask for the open-world PvP to be removed? Just go and play one of the _countless_ games where what you consider to be ā€œgriefingā€ isnā€™t one of the primary features. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=27)