# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/584 "2022-09-30T04:32:56Z")

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Perhaps a Ganker Alert app can be created and then inserted one the games folders. Many years ago, I used a local alert app that I could set, based on security status or standings. If a Capsuleer with a -10 sec status came into Local, a sound would play. If the same Capsuleer’s corporation or alliance was set to - 10 standings, another sound would play.

I’m not certain if CCP allows such programs any longer, but it would be nice to have a similar app that you could set sounds to for, standings, security status or ship type. The ship type would come in handy for setting alert sounds for Freighters, Orcas as well the primary ships used by the gankers.

The only real way to defeat the gankers are, using Vorton weapons on fleets of 5 to 6 cruisers, and or an audible alert system.

The alert system could also have sounds set for ganker ships whenever they come grid, that might give you enough time to warp out, that is unless the gankers have a neutral ship that scrambles your ship.

Non-gankers obviously do need some type of audio warning system, it’s the least that can be afforded to miners and mission runners when the gankers have an infinite number of gank ships and nowadays, almost every Null alliance has a Gank squad that it runs from time to time.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/585 "2022-09-30T05:49:30Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Non-gankers obviously do need some type of audio warning system

It would have to be piped via Netflix to achieve the purpose you appear to intend it to have.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/586 "2022-09-30T10:05:29Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> No, I didn’t tell you to quit the game.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Just go and play one of the _countless_ games where what you consider to be “griefing” isn’t one of the primary features.

Right.

Look, I have enough of an education and Real World experience to understand what griefing is.

You’re obviously profiting from ganking or enjoy griefing people yourself.

The game was designed and marketed with multiple play styles in mind. Forcing your play style on someone else and then berating them at every turn is griefing.

If “mining salt” is your primary reason for playing a game then you obviously have a screw loose. It’s classic anti-social behavior and I pity the people that get off on it.

DOB: 2003.05.10

I’m not quitting Eve Online. It’s too great of a game!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/587 "2022-09-30T10:10:17Z")

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> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> I’m American, so I apologize

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/2/86256bdf1b86a363df6604d241b6a473f6c2af79.png)

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/588 "2022-09-30T10:16:07Z")

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![Captura de Tela 2022-09-30 às 07.15.03](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/d/a/3dad3b7ba0c6812fe5bc3d88c5ba4eddcd18d6f8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/589 "2022-09-30T10:19:59Z")

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Wow. Now you’re anti-American?

You sound jealous, just saying.

Obviously you guys are really afraid of criminal bounties.

Good.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/590 "2022-09-30T10:20:48Z")

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> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> Wow. Now you’re anti-American?

how can i be anti American if I’m an American to?  
Proud American from Brazil

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/591 "2022-09-30T10:22:53Z")

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At least his map-reading credentials check out, as in he’s got none.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/592 "2022-09-30T10:25:15Z")

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I was referring to you, not him.

Why does everything have to turn into an insult?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/593 "2022-09-30T10:26:06Z")

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You should probably press the right reply button then.

But feel free to show me where I insulted you.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/594 "2022-09-30T10:27:27Z")

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You quoted me and then posted a picture of “Doubt”.

Whose map reading skills were you referring to?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/595 "2022-09-30T10:28:15Z")

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OK? And?

Americans dont apologise for anything.

They consider it weakness.

If you can show me where you apologised for some thing, Ill retract the mean insult you feel you suffered.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/596 "2022-09-30T10:30:00Z")

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First, Americans don’t consider apologizing as a weakness.

Second, I’ve apologized multiple times.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/597 "2022-09-30T10:30:49Z")

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First, yes they do

Second, no you havent.

I guess “show me” means something different where you come from, the Greatsest Country On Earth.

All give you another chance, show me any American apologising and meaning it.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/598 "2022-09-30T10:32:58Z")

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> [@One Way to Balance High-Security Space dagger](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/575):
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> I’m American, so I apologize for not being 100% on the meaning of that phrase. I assume it means: [image] I’m willing to step back, take a fresh look at the bigger picture, and reconsider how I approach the subject. I would much rather make friends than enemies. I don’t see my overall opinion changing in regards to the mechanics to ganking, but I will try harder to show respect for other people’s opinions. Just a side note, kudos for your W/L ratio on zKillz of 1,269/18. Very impressi…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/599 "2022-09-30T10:33:51Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> show me any American apologising and meaning it.

I know words are hard for you, so its ok that you cant do that simple thing.

The correct answer was “Im sorry, Im unable to do that”

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/600 "2022-09-30T10:35:34Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I know words are hard for you,

Wow, the insuults keep coming. Try F-5.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/601 "2022-09-30T10:36:18Z")

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F-5 Tigers are not hard to fly. Is that what your insult means? Try flying an easy to fly aircraft? (or “airplane” in your language).

I mean, Im still not seeing this apology you apparently have no problem giving.

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**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/602 "2022-09-30T10:41:22Z")

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F-5 refreshes your browser, at least it does mine.

Scroll up and read the link to my apology to @Destiny_Corrupted .

It’s only a few posts ago. Right after you said “show me”.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/603 "2022-09-30T10:43:44Z")

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> [@Codename\_Razorback](#):
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> Right after you said “show me”.

Yep, and you just repeated the empty phrase that started this whole thing.

Now you have a bee in your bonnet because I pointed out that Americans find apologising a sign of weakness, and you are literally doing your very best to prove me right.

What I dont get is why you think thats an insult, when a showing weakness would surely be a bad thing to you, and not apologising a sign of strength?

If I insulted you, shouldnt you respect me more for not apologising for it because IM not showing weakness but strength?

Dont Americans respect strong opponents?

Or do they just like to argue with the weak?

Also remember, its you who brought nationality into it before we get to that.

ASs for monetising AG, sure, as long as G is monetised too.

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