# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/730 "2022-10-01T19:10:14Z")
But he wants it to be…. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/731 "2022-10-01T19:12:27Z")
Then go play wow. Nothing wrong with that. But it seems eve is not for you. It’s not for most actually. It was built as a nitch game and trying to make it soft for players like you has basically almost killed it. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/733 "2022-10-01T19:15:42Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Then go play wow. Nothing wrong with that. But it seems eve is not for you. It’s not for most actually. It was built as a nitch game and trying to make it soft for players like you has basically almost killed it. There you go again, default response of the ganker is to ask the player who does not agree with you to leave the game. CCP needs to take note. Gankers want to drive people from the game. That is their position. Some people just want to see the world, or in this case the universe of New Eden, burn. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/734 "2022-10-01T19:16:49Z")
Im not making suggestions. Im taking notes. Im not the one after Hilmar’s bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/735 "2022-10-01T19:17:05Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > It was built as a nitch game and trying to make it soft for players like you You mean soft for players that gank Ventures for the salt. How is ganking ships with no weapons “hardcore” PvP? * * * Ganking = ISK Faucet \*Soon™ to be shut off… * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/1/b01b1398bada1b18753988e53a1dc848d962800f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/736 "2022-10-01T19:21:14Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > There you go again, default response of the ganker Thats rich! 🤣 Standard response from a botter or afk’er. Find a gank in my killmails. 🙄 > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > soft for players If you’re at the keyboard and still get popped, you better take another class in eve. What can I say, you don’t have to leave but if you are not good at the game… ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/737 "2022-10-01T19:26:37Z")
You really can’t help yourself. you expose the entire pirate effort, they are anti-ccp and want to drive new paying customers from the game. It’s as simple as that. It takes years to understand the game enough to fight high sec gankers. And the only chance you may have is an expensive ship called a Stormbringer. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/738 "2022-10-01T19:28:25Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > You really can’t help yourself. you expose the entire pirate effort ? > [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > It takes years to understand the game enough to fight high sec gankers. It takes a few days with a good teacher. (and a few working braincells) Or not being a bot or afk. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/739 "2022-10-01T19:29:40Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > It takes years to understand the game enough to fight high sec gankers. I am an experienced mining prosecutor, and I am available if you need a licensed space attorney to fight for you. I am available for your defensive fleet efforts, and will help guide your mining team to success. My fee is low, just 1 billion isk for 1 full year of high security protection. Mining Troubles? Better Call Aiko! ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/740 "2022-10-01T19:31:50Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > just 1 billion isk for 1 full year of high security protection That’s practically free! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/741 "2022-10-01T19:36:27Z")
I don’t mine anymore but when I did, I never trusted that permit. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/742 "2022-10-01T19:36:31Z")
I called Aiko and all my toubles simply exploded away! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/743 "2022-10-01T19:38:14Z")
[(1) 1991 Maaco “You better get MAACO” TV Commercial - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnnlDvhurW0) ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/744 "2022-10-01T19:55:46Z")
Gankers have never honored “permits”. They’re a scam. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/745 "2022-10-01T20:05:02Z")
I cant say if they do or not and I didn’t want to find out. Being active at the keyboard was cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/746 "2022-10-01T20:06:43Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Gankers have never honored “permits”. > > They’re a scam. Ya, it’s one thing to be a ganker but they compound it by being a scammer. You could almost say that they try and make it sound like a CCP sanctioned action. Which is a violation of the user agreement. It is against policy to go around saying you are officially working for CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/747 "2022-10-01T20:07:48Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > This just shows you’ve never done it. It might be entertaining once or twice, but after that, a fleet of ships slowly moving gate to gate is not engaging gameplay regardless of whether you’re on comms when you do it. Bro, we get it. You’re anti social. Newsflash. We can tell 😃 > [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > They have indicated asking players for isk to not attack them is a scam. LOL wut. Show the proof. > [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > yes they know you are doing it and have called it a SCAM. CCP thinks your a SCAMMER. now own your own logic. Drop the proof. > [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > Yes they are allowed, but CCP does not respect you. You are trash to them. They hate you. You ok bruv? ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/748 "2022-10-01T20:08:26Z")
![Screenshot_20221001-145553_Chrome](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/8/eb82aa8575c7f37a2cfd208b52c6027d0d361228.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/749 "2022-10-01T20:11:23Z")
Put an alt in the in-game channel: Why Was I Ganked And witness the griefing first hand. They invite the victim there and harass them and try to extort money from them. It’s pathetic behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/750 "2022-10-01T20:11:39Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > we should organize a gank the ganker with fleets of ventures… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/8/1/a816fd91caa89033ab77ab8f3cc2872d757e68f6.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/b/7/4b7b81e16e00bc145c2c46e3c72c4f042c33177e.gif) 1- As a whole, them eeeebil gankers wouldn’t care, on the contrary some amusement might be had. 2- Even if such a pitchfork-and-torches movement was actually done (been talked about for almost 20 years now, but this time it will happen, I’m sure) it wouldn’t be the crushing juggernaut you seem to think it would be. Gankers would simply adapt. 3- Highsec has never even been able to organize to vote in CSM…and you think there will be fleets organized? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=35)