# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/832 "2022-10-02T14:37:15Z")

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There you go, you heard it from the CSM, if you dont like it, just move to Null.

Just like if you dont like being poor, why not just be rich?

People like him actually live in a whole different world than you.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/833 "2022-10-02T14:38:48Z")

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Right on sister.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/834 "2022-10-02T14:40:16Z")

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oh wait, he is typing, this will be a ground breaking post.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/835 "2022-10-02T14:40:48Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If its not you rolling about in adulation and people watching you, you dont care.

For ■■■■’s sake. You tell me i am not engaged in the debate on this subject, so I explain that I am, and then you ■■■■■ about that.

If you are so detached that you don’t know who is on the CSM maybe you shouldn’t just assume you know my views or what I do.

I have always cared about more than “my patch” whatever you think that is. I wouldn’t be here wasting my time on a Sunday morning responding to people if I didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/836 "2022-10-02T14:41:23Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> People like him actually live in a whole different world than you.

Amen! Can I have his hat?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/837 "2022-10-02T14:42:21Z")

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> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#):
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> Good. One less goon to deal with.

Anybody cheering more people leaving this game should be ignored and shunned. We are rapidly approaching the point where the game will no longer be viable, and guys like you can’t get around petty partisanship.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/839 "2022-10-02T14:42:48Z")

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You havent the first clue what anyone but yourself wants.

Editted because of angry tirade. Angry, but heartfelt.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/840 "2022-10-02T14:43:39Z")

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It’s a shame none of you folks can have an actual conversation without it descending into this nonsense.

Have fun swirling the drain. I’ve got better things to do.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/841 "2022-10-02T14:46:09Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> It’s a shame none of you folks can have an actual conversation

You wouldnt even know one if you saw it.

Besides theres no $$$ in it for you.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/842 "2022-10-02T14:47:37Z")

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See if you were smart you would recognize this is not non-sense. The gankers are actively trying to kill the game. They have admitted it. Satety needs to be put out of business and ganking of high sec miners put to a end. Right now mining is being dominated by Fraternity in the Vale. And they are responsible for funding and making the ganking possible by working with safety. They are trying to corner the market. In high and Null. Sadly the same games are being played that they played on the China servers which will end the server eventually but not because players want it.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/843 "2022-10-02T14:47:57Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Besides theres no $$$ in it for you

Yes, yes, because THAT’S what has always motivated me. You guys don’t even make sense.

You sure your last name is McCandaless and not McClueless?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/844 "2022-10-02T14:50:32Z")

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I want money.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/845 "2022-10-02T14:50:43Z")

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Oh Safety is typing a denial now. Edit: Oh wait not a denial… lol is your null sec character in Fraternity?

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/846 "2022-10-02T14:52:22Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> See if you were smart you would recognize this is not non-sense. The gankers are actively trying to kill the game. They have admitted it. Satety needs to be put out of business and ganking of high sec miners put to a end. Right now mining is being dominated by Fraternity in the Vale. And they are responsible for funding and making the ganking possible by working with safety. They are trying to corner the market. In high and Null. Sadly the same games are being played that they played on the China servers which will end the server eventually but not because players want it.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. The gankers are doing the same things they’ve been doing for the last 20 years. They were far more prevalent five or six years ago. They are playing the game the way they want to play the game.

As for the FRT conspiracy theories, I’m glad to see one that isn’t Imperium centric, but it has no basis in reality.

Play the game the way you want, and let others do the same thing. If what they’re doing is harming you, find a way around it, like generations of players before you have.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/847 "2022-10-02T14:53:15Z")

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what if this is the way i want to play. exposing the politics is fun.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/848 "2022-10-02T14:54:15Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> what if this is the way i want to play. exposing the politics is fun

Is that what you think you’re doing here?

Okay, enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/849 "2022-10-02T14:55:15Z")

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So why are you dismissing the enemy and it’s plan. Isn’t your alliance currently fighting the evil forces of fraternity?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/850 "2022-10-02T14:55:48Z")

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> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#):
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> You can create an alt at -10? I’ve never seen that option in the character creation process. That’s funny.

You can’t really be this thick.

> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> You can try to propose all sorts of patchwork of rules to try to make the idea work and eliminate abuse but it would all be because this idea sucks in the first place.

> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#):
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> It would be simple for CCP to [blah blah patchwork of rules]

Oh, no, there’s definitely a “talking past” reading comprehension problem.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/851 "2022-10-02T14:57:16Z")

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Of course thats what motivates you, you are a null krab and a politician.

Youve not ever shown theres anything else.

Or are you suddenly not pro-capitalist? Had an epiphany just there now?

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/852 "2022-10-02T14:57:40Z")

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Insulting another persons intelligence is a, go to insult, for everyone who has no skill to argue their position. Do better.

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