# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/853 "2022-10-02T15:00:41Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > Do better. You’re telling me, the guy who said “create a -10 alt” to do better, when the response was “LOL u can’t literally select -10 sec status in character creation u r Stoopid”. Yeah, you’re real high and mighty. Tell the other guy to Do Better™. Also giving Brisc 💩 for his ganking views is also pretty silly. Simply don’t vote for him – oh wait, no one can next election – and move on. Find a CSM representative that does care about anti-ganking and talk to them instead. That’s also Doing Better. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/854 "2022-10-02T15:01:07Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > So why are you dismissing the enemy and it’s plan. Isn’t your alliance currently fighting the evil forces of fraternity? Because they don’t have any kind of plan like you’re referring to. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Of course thats what motivates you, you are a null krab and a politician. > > Youve not ever shown theres anything else. > > Or are you suddenly not pro-capitalist? Had an epiphany just there now? One look at my killboard would demonstrate I am not and never have been a “null krab.” I don’t care about money in EVE, and never have. That’s not what motivates me. Seriously, you seem to hate me but you have no idea who I am or what I do. Maybe you should take a step back and realize the image you’ve created of me in your head is not real. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/855 "2022-10-02T15:04:57Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > You sure your last name is McCandaless No, its McCandless as it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/856 "2022-10-02T15:10:06Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Seriously, you seem to hate me but you have no idea who I am or what I do. Maybe you should take a step back and realize the image you’ve created of me in your head is not real. Really? Ive seen no evidence to the contrary. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > One look at my killboard would demonstrate I am not and never have been a “null krab.” I don’t care about money in EVE, and never have. That’s not what motivates me. Where is it written krabs can have killboards? But no, ofc not, you have more than enough isk from the krabs who grind under you. Thats what being in Null is all about after all. But real money, thats the real motivator. Or, like I said, you arent a capitalist suddenly? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/857 "2022-10-02T15:14:57Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > wasting my time on a Sunday morning responding to people I think that pretty much sums up your position. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Anybody cheering more people leaving this game should be ignored and shunned. You obviously don’t read these forums often. Gankers tell people to leave the game _CONSTANTLY!_ > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Politician, liar and souless troll. You’re on fire! Keep it coming! > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Have fun swirling the drain. I’ve got better things to do. Bye. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Play the game the way you want, and let others do the same thing. Like peaceful miners in High Sec? Ganking them doesn’t line up with what you just said. > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > you have no idea who I am or what I do So, the guy on Twitch isn’t “the real you”? Now I’m confused. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/859 "2022-10-02T15:24:47Z")
> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#): > > I’m not sure if that’s intentional on your part. That one part of it is purely a look at what would be the case if that distribution still holds. It seems pretty clear in the way its worded. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/860 "2022-10-02T15:39:12Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Probably best not to linger on that. Ok. Moving on… “NPC like” bounties on criminals in HS. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/861 "2022-10-02T15:47:15Z")
The vast majority of bounties go unclaimed, most people simply can’t be bothered or don’t know enough about the mechanics involved with collecting them. The majority of those people who can be bothered and/or know enough about the relevant mechanics, they’re generally the same people that would end up having them placed on them; crime being somewhat more profitable than hunting criminals for their bounties. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/862 "2022-10-02T15:47:33Z")
Anyway I was saying that I get the difference between them, but its still bribing people into pvp and that didnt work well in the orevious system. Oh and Hi @Jonah_Gravenstein ! ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/863 "2022-10-02T15:51:00Z")
I would just walk away and enjoy your Sunday. Sorry to see you got dragged into this. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/864 "2022-10-02T15:52:55Z")
Its been confirmed somewhere that with the advent of alphas, that security bypass isnt enforced as much of at all. Its been several years so i dont recall where it was mentioned ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/865 "2022-10-02T15:54:52Z")
Yes, Hi @Jonah_Gravenstein! I’m genuinely pleased you to see you here after so long. Mind you, little has changed - and not for the better… Now, all we need are people like Jenn aSide, Black Pedro, and the others… Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/866 "2022-10-02T15:56:16Z")
Yeah, it’s somewhat of a pointless exercise with alpha accounts. I’ve known a few people get contacted for doing it since their introduction, they were all clearing a slot on long established accounts for character transfers so it was fine. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/867 "2022-10-02T15:58:35Z")
Yea it is good to see you back. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/868 "2022-10-02T16:13:58Z")
Put on the yellow space suit! Wear it for the rest of October! / Well come to think about that… it would balance high-sec in a huge way! Bring all the Nulboys to Highsec for just a glimpse as we all know your pilot would never log out while wearing that yellow spacesuit! ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/869 "2022-10-02T16:20:53Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > You can’t really be this thick. Not so fast there, Koval! An emotionally delicate, VideogameVictimhood clutching player who names their character after someone who was so hard they made a legendary, age-spanning name for themself in an age of general cruelty, misery, and wanton violence? hmm… @Ramona_McCandless - I forget that you have a bit of a bee in your bonnet in regards to politicians irl and ingame. Combining the two does get you going some, eh? @Jonah_Gravenstein - Yeah, good to see you about the drain here…hope that doesn’t mean your favourite pub closed, though… ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/870 "2022-10-02T16:40:06Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > “LOL u can’t literally select -10 sec status in character creation u r Stoopid”. He didn’t say that?!?! Really? If he did, that some top tier idiocy right there. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/871 "2022-10-02T16:49:34Z")
> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#): > > Combining the two does get you going some, eh? Yeah probably best I dont let myself get baited on the subject ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/872 "2022-10-02T16:50:06Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Now exclude consensual PvP, like organised fleet battles, groups of roamers finding each other, etc. I don’t know of a valid approach to doing so, but if you can come up with one, then go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/873 "2022-10-02T16:59:08Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > bribing people into pvp Bribing isn’t the same as rewarding. Gankers have the reward of loot, AG currently has no reward. This is an obvious imbalance. Imagine having an NPC Bounty on a criminal like: ![NPC Bounty](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/7/037fb564034b3c3ea38d3c9201af60fb6bb1b0c5.jpeg) > [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > Sorry to see you got dragged into this. Poor ol’ Brisc. 😭 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999.md?page=41)