# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/894 "2022-10-02T17:35:24Z")

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No, thats not what Im getting at.

The uptake on bounties previously was very low. It wasnt a case of a lack of them, or them going away quickly.

What would make a bounty more enticing to hunt now than before?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/895 "2022-10-02T17:35:47Z")

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> [@ISD\_Buldath](#):
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> This whole thread is about to get nuked,

Why? You should at least give a specific reason. Not giving a reason is far too commonplace.

EDIT: There’s an appearance of favoritism here. Surely CCP would prefer to come across as fair and impartial.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/896 "2022-10-02T17:37:12Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> What would make a bounty more enticing to hunt now than before?

The same reason people rat in null sec.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/897 "2022-10-02T17:37:21Z")

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Mostly my flaming. Its a fair cop.

I will come quietly, Officer.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/898 "2022-10-02T17:38:10Z")

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I think the missing piece is the removal of CONCORD for Bounty Hunters. Did I miss that part in the festivities?

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/899 "2022-10-02T17:39:24Z")

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I ask myself what ‘reward’ there is for participating in just about any civilised justice system. We call people who perform military duties, including running security, for money ‘mercenaries’. They don’t even rise to the level of a vigilante, who would ostensibly be willing to go to great lengths to mete out justice without getting paid. I don’t think that the reward for AG is supposed to be in the same currency as what they supposedly fight against, though loot is nice, too.

If you actually care about justice, then the reward for participating in the justice system is the justice you help create.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/900 "2022-10-02T17:39:30Z")

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> [@ISD\_Buldath](#):
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> This whole thread is about to get nuked, so just enjoying the company and letting people get in there IB4TL

And nothing of value was lost.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/901 "2022-10-02T17:41:30Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> removal of CONCORD

CONCORD just warps in and cleans up the mess. They are NOT proactive and do nothing to prevent a gank from occurring. AG would be able to build their ranks and have the numbers to make this happen.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/902 "2022-10-02T17:42:04Z")

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So if you attack a ganker with a Bounty, you still get CONCORDed?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/903 "2022-10-02T17:44:00Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> And nothing of value was lost.

Sounds like someone’s salty. Farewell Brisc, I hope you find peace and happiness outside of the CSM. :guardparrot:

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/904 "2022-10-02T17:44:29Z")

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I think we can attack a -10 without worry of being flagged criminal

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/905 "2022-10-02T17:44:29Z")

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Creating a -10 alt isn’t that hard. Roll a character. Train up gallente destroyer. Train up blasters, and gank ventures in high sec. Goes even faster if you can nab the pod. Even just applying the WS on it will significantly decrease your security rating.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/906 "2022-10-02T17:44:30Z")

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Let him be. He got what he wanted.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/907 "2022-10-02T17:45:09Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> you still get CONCORDed?

If their security status doesn’t meet the criteria. Of course.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/908 "2022-10-02T17:45:34Z")

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Oh is it only -10s?

Well plenty of minus 10s had bounty previously and it didnt mean there were more Bounty Hunters.

I just dont see where this system works better than the last vOv

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/909 "2022-10-02T17:46:38Z")

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Oh right ok. But still, see my continuing question.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/910 "2022-10-02T17:46:40Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Creating a -10 alt isn’t that hard.

I know, I was being sarcastic.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/911 "2022-10-02T17:50:32Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Creating a -10 alt isn’t that hard

 ![Screenshot_20221002_185020](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/b/e8b0885afecd92e0699fa481138ac1990b3fb0d4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_vlad_tepes1/32/336485_2.png) [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Vlad_Tepes1)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/912 "2022-10-02T17:52:50Z")

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@ISD_Buldath

Don’t let a few people derailing this thread win by nuking it. Most of the discussion is pretty “on topic”.  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/5/5d5da29a2ee3730f21f68a0ad0b6d25c32da9deb.png)

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/913 "2022-10-02T17:53:44Z")

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> [@Count\_Vlad\_Tepes1](#):
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> > [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> > And nothing of value was lost.
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> Sounds like someone’s salty. Farewell Brisc, I hope you find peace and happiness outside of the CSM. :guardparrot:

uh huh

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