# One Way to Balance High-Security Space 🗡

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999 "2022-09-24T16:27:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1144 "2022-10-03T12:58:43Z")

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Oh sorry, I thought youd said you were in Goons once before.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1145 "2022-10-03T13:03:03Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> So why not compare ganking to gun control. You have to have some form of control over ganking, It is why CONCORD exists after all. Control.

is this guy serious? gun control doesnt actually work in RL, hence why cops and private armed security exists.

add: And like Concord, the police dont come running till after a 911 call is made.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1146 "2022-10-03T13:03:53Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> You have to have some form of control over ganking, It is why CONCORD exists after all. Control.

You do. You have the right to carry weapons on your ship. You have the right to escape. You have the right to engage the attacker. Concord is only there to make sure the job actually gets finished. Safety. will have explained that to you.

And too much “control” - clearly you’ve taken a page out of the Kellian gospel he so generously spreads in all the threads - will take out the fun of at least having a virtual world with freedom of choice. But that is most likely beyond your comprehension or feverish dreams about Control.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1147 "2022-10-03T13:04:57Z")

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Hell no! I once lightly explained to Tessa I wasn’t “joining the bandwagon” – the goon mental-protection propaganda during the Groomswarm incident – for having already hated Goons long before, for my lived experiences and those by my corp mates.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1148 "2022-10-03T13:05:24Z")

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LOL that first part sounds funnily enough like miranda rights. Have a like

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1149 "2022-10-03T13:06:49Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> only because the gankers keep saying the same thing so they get the same response from me.

> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> That was because one of you gankers were comparing ganking to something stupid.

You seem a fan of tit-for-tat, so as you said unto me: Do Better.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1150 "2022-10-03T13:07:52Z")

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Oh ok then please accept my full and unreserved apology.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1152 "2022-10-03T13:34:56Z")

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> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> clearly you’ve taken a page out of the Kellian gospel

Me thinks Most Moliko is a Lucas alt.

Similar writing style. Wierdly the same argument structures and tactics. Meta knowledge of past interactions with people on the forum. The same kind of insults and snide remarks.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1153 "2022-10-03T13:39:20Z")

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You a fan of theirs or something?

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1154 "2022-10-03T13:40:31Z")

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Nope, wrong… I really can’t expose my main or people in this forum would have to seek a mental health professional.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1156 "2022-10-03T13:44:58Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> Nope, wrong… I really can’t expose my main or people in this forum would have to seek a mental health professional.

So, Lucas then.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1158 "2022-10-03T13:48:22Z")

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You are pretending to play ignorant to something exceptionally serious.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1159 "2022-10-03T13:51:39Z")

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I am not who you think i am but i still wish to keep my main out of this conversation.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1160 "2022-10-03T13:53:35Z")

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I dont care who you are, you dont make fun of that subject.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1162 "2022-10-03T13:56:01Z")

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That would completely explain my two blocks then.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1163 "2022-10-03T13:56:14Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> > [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> > > [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> > > Please tell me more, did the mean Goon touch you?
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> > Incredibly awful comment of the day, given your comment is jesting about paedophilia.
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> > 0/10 would block again.
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> Wow, that is an odd stretch.

I believe you have crossed a line, Mr Moliko.

To use such an expression in the pursuit of entertainment and mockery, when there exist real people who have suffered precisely this type of assault, is shameful and grossly insensitive.

You should withdraw the remark, and apologise.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1165 "2022-10-03T13:58:46Z")

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To be clear, my personal beef with Goons is small time peanuts and nothing of the _ahem_ sort.

However, given I was recounting the incident of the _ahem_ allegations made against a Goon member and recounting discussions happening at that time, I am convinced the word choice was completely deliberate to try to poke fun at me, leveraging the 💩 of those allegations.

I don’t care about being poked at. I do think a line was completely crossed to do so.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1166 "2022-10-03T14:00:08Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> other peoples pain is not your strawman to play with.

My pain, Mr Moliko, _my_ pain.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1168 "2022-10-03T14:05:09Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> ganking could be considered unwanted touching for some sensitive to that. Almost triggering.

don’t forget the homicidal tendencies, the socio- if not psychopathic character traits that are clearly present in gankers. You’ll have a field day ! All those people should be in isolation rooms for the rest of their lives.

The hyperbole just went ballistic.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-way-to-balance-high-security-space/377999/1169 "2022-10-03T14:07:49Z")

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And not from me, from the gankers. It seems they can run around being insensitive and then be sensitive suddenly at will. They should stop ganking as that is causing serious issues.

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