# Open Letter on the State of Civility on This Forum **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062 "2024-12-12T23:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/101 "2024-12-13T22:44:18Z")
> [@Aciiiid](#): > > Do you still think this place can be saved? Never thought it can be, just wrote “worth a try”. 😛 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aciiiid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aciiiid/32/425651_2.png) [@Aciiiid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aciiiid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/102 "2024-12-13T22:50:59Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Never thought it can be, just wrote “worth a try”. 😛 I used to own a game with a bunch of friends. I was assigned to maintain the forum. I had exactly the same problems. I resolved it through IP bans. I quickly learned that you can’t beat that adrenaline rush that trolls have through moderation. Ofc in my case it was a small independent project so it was doable. CCP can’t afford such actions. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/103 "2024-12-13T22:53:17Z")
> [@Aciiiid](#): > > I resolved it through IP bans. Unless someone pays for static IP people have dynamic IP. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Aciiiid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aciiiid/32/425651_2.png) [@Aciiiid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aciiiid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/104 "2024-12-13T22:54:29Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Unless someone pays for static IP people have dynamic IP. 🤔 Yes, my trolls with dynamic IPs thought the same. There are ways to overcome this, trust me 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/105 "2024-12-13T22:55:10Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Just curious as to why you changed Altara’s status to ‘neutral’ and had to notify me of it. Because you both EIK me! Just like how Uriel is starting to anger me! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/106 "2024-12-13T22:55:18Z")
Then it’s not an IP ban. 😉 Anyway this is offtopic. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/107 "2024-12-13T22:55:42Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Uriel is starting to anger me 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Aciiiid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aciiiid/32/425651_2.png) [@Aciiiid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aciiiid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/108 "2024-12-13T22:58:08Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Then it’s not an IP ban. 😉 > > Anyway this is offtopic. It is IP ban, there are ways to handle dynamic IPs, it just requires a bit more knowledge and effort. But you are right, this is off topic. Lets get back to arguing who is the biggest troll. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/109 "2024-12-13T22:59:15Z")
> [@Aciiiid](#): > > who is the biggest troll That’s easy. It’s the Frostpacker, he tries to choke us with his `wordsalad`s, barraging us from his many alts even. 👀 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/110 "2024-12-13T22:59:54Z")
Hi, just passing through. ![no-judgment-rooster](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/9/469b67eb4179aed9357cc495667b8f7e5e5c87b1.gif) @James_Fuchs you’re a brave person in this social medium. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/8/c/a8c796fc5df3b637f2880d209a4bc838559de197.jpeg "Brave, But, Foolish, My Old Jedi Friend") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oY7TsYDqao) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/111 "2024-12-13T23:02:32Z")
I’m voting for you! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/112 "2024-12-13T23:15:48Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > That’s easy. It’s the Frostpacker, he tries to choke us with his `wordsalad`s, barraging us from his many alts even. ![ufc](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/3/4/f348c797a8c5181b4e3a4fb7e4646d5dba59dc4d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/113 "2024-12-13T23:46:50Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I don’t think you know what this means. > > > [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > > > I will stick doggedly to the topic Haha, I did qualify it with the rider ‘let’s see how long that lasts’. Clearly, in your view, not very long! But at least I’ve managed to inject some restraint into my responses. I think James Fuchs’ exhortation is working! ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/114 "2024-12-14T00:01:57Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I looked everywhere in the OP and never found it to be a treatise on grammar usage. Had the person making that grammatical error confined his remarks to ones reflecting the topic outlined in the OP, I should (perhaps) not have had the opportunity to correct him. I hope he takes it all in good part. My intention was gently to nudge him in the direction of adopting a more civil tone in addressing me. Well, I must bid you Good Night, Mr Epeen. I’m reading a bit of Proust at the moment, but I fear that his renown as an author of acclaimed literary works cannot entirely prevent my eyelids from growing heavy nor my head from nodding drowsily. Take care, Mr Epeen. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/115 "2024-12-14T00:07:33Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > My intention was To get a pat on the head from Aiko. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/116 "2024-12-14T00:47:29Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Because you both EIK me! I don’t think I’ve had any engagement with you whatever, either in-game or in the forums. You seem to think I have some activities in Uedama, but I long since moved my home base to Jita and Uedama is just a place I zoom through now and then. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/117 "2024-12-14T01:12:55Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I **really** miss the old forums. So do I. You really had to know wat you were talking about back then. I got my arse handed to me a number of times, but I learned and I am still here. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > just what they do in New Eden. Which is something that they have been doing since the inception of the game. Why cry now? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/118 "2024-12-14T02:46:07Z")
Just letting my tears flow down the right side of the hanger wall. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/119 "2024-12-14T02:53:04Z")
Left is right, right is wrong? Meh… I don’t cry about the game anymore. What was good is gone. We live with it. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/120 "2024-12-14T03:07:22Z")
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