# Open Letter on the State of Civility on This Forum **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062 "2024-12-12T23:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/121 "2024-12-14T08:15:48Z")
Inedeed, Frostpackers like adding extra words to sound more important. Hence `wordsalad`. šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜Š > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I donā€™t think He doesnā€™t either. He is just posting just to post some words for the sake of posting some words. Hence `wordsalad`. šŸ˜‰ šŸ¤­ > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Why cry now? Because now Aiko and Zaera blocked him and as such most gankers ignore his `wordsalad`s too. This makes him angry. šŸ¤” šŸ˜‡ > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > hanger šŸ˜ˆ ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/122 "2024-12-14T10:47:49Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > English grammar disagrees. You suck at English. * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/2/222c7d8b585ca53dcb221bf0e921880b05e0c34f.png) * * * > [@Aciiiid](#): > > I resolved it through IP bans. * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/1/5/315eacd736d39ab921f6a379533eadca5e91147e.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/123 "2024-12-14T10:48:10Z")
The messenger aside, I think the overall message is on-point - we could stand to have a bit more civility on this forum. This applies equally to those who babble on incoherently, ie: if youā€™re going to comment - try to be mindful of that - otherwise, spare the rest of us the dribble. That being said, one of my New Yearā€™s Resolutions is to try and be more positive and helpful on these forums. Happy Holidays to you all and fly safe. o7 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/124 "2024-12-14T11:00:52Z")
I agree 100%ā€¦ Also Season Greetings to allā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Conference\_Elitest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/conference_elitest/32/441863_2.png) [@Conference\_Elitest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Conference_Elitest)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/125 "2024-12-14T11:10:38Z")
I agree no feelings should be hurt and treated like the special snow flake muffins they are! I want 1 billion isk please and thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/126 "2024-12-14T11:17:20Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > > [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > > > English grammar disagrees. > > You suck at English. I am always willing to learn new (to me) constructions in the English language. I now understand that the phrase ā€˜You suckā€™ is an Americanism, informal and impolite. The use of the verb ā€˜suckā€™ has no connection with its literal meaning. So, to be clear, I was wrong. ā€˜You suck.ā€™ is a colloquialism which does not follow normal grammatical rules. Thanks for pointing it out; Iā€™ll remember that! ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/127 "2024-12-14T11:25:32Z")
The vast majority of us are very tolerant of language mistakes (especially if your first language isnā€™t English). We appreciate the effort! ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/128 "2024-12-14T12:15:01Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > colloquialism 100% English has too many exceptions. I donā€™t actually think that you suck šŸ˜› * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/e/b6e2eb7506c203108669d755e46ca7ec1a874196.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/129 "2024-12-14T12:37:38Z")
> [@Aciiiid](#): > > this was supposed to be a discussion about the quality of forum posts. No it wasnā€™t, it was a troll post right from the start. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/130 "2024-12-14T12:50:50Z")
Maybe (and the jokeā€™s on us). Myself, I prefer to take it in the spirit of which (I assume) it was intended. Regardless, can I at least take something positive away from this? Yes - and thatā€™s what I choose to do. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/131 "2024-12-14T12:53:00Z")
OP is a ganker, take a wild guess. ---
**Author:** ![Aciiiid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aciiiid/32/425651_2.png) [@Aciiiid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aciiiid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/132 "2024-12-14T12:55:39Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Maybe (and the jokeā€™s on us). Myself, I prefer to take it in the spirit of which (I assume) it was intended. Regardless, can I at least take something positive away from this? Yes - and thatā€™s what I choose to do. o7 Same here. Even if this started as troll post, I think the topic is valid and I wouldnā€™t mind discussing this. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/133 "2024-12-14T12:55:45Z")
And what of it? Not my personal style of play, but each to their own. As I mentioned, if this is a troll - then the jokeā€™s on us. I donā€™t see any harm with more civility on this forum (this was something the old forums had a lot more of - despite occasional disagreements). ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/134 "2024-12-14T13:33:08Z")
Posting in a ganker whine thread where they accuse others of doing what they doā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/135 "2024-12-14T14:06:00Z")
Hi Dracvlad, what drew you back to this festering pit?! ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/136 "2024-12-14T14:26:43Z")
So true as @James_Fuchs had everyone at _hello_ ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/137 "2024-12-14T14:50:58Z")
I donā€™t know, but i find ā€œopen lettersā€ originating from one person using the word ā€œweā€ offensive. Who is ā€œweā€? Normally you go around and get people to agree and sign your letter before you publish it as an open letter. You did nothing of that kind, but left the group of ā€œweā€ undefined. I donā€™t like to be included in any group that i didnā€™t sign up for and would have to opt out now. So please mark me of having opted out of your letter as i do not agree with letters that i have not read and signed. Or is the ā€œweā€ supposed to be the pluralis majestatis? Which i would find even more offensiveā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/138 "2024-12-14T14:51:03Z")
Hey, I hope you are well. I am still subbed atm, though have not done anything in space for more than two weeks. In answer to you question, amusement is what did itā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/139 "2024-12-14T17:03:47Z")
@James_Fuchs Good evening, sir šŸ˜Š Thank you for trying to foster an amicable atmosphere online this holiday season while the game is in Winter Solstice mode. I wish for everyone to receive the gift of their dream and also be able to pilot their favorite ship for this Yule season. Love and warm wishes to all ā˜ŗ ā€“Shikoku Hiroswa ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/140 "2024-12-14T22:28:21Z")
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