# Open Letter on the State of Civility on This Forum **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 12, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062 "2024-12-12T23:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/161 "2024-12-16T07:05:36Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Call me what you want. I didn’t call you anything… What I did is point out that your statements about me are incorrect… > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > EVE was designed to be hard. When the best mining ship in the game was a battleship, I don’t think mining was high on CCP list of priorities! 🤣 Again you’re going off-topic, this thread has nothing to do with mining yet you seem fixated on it… What’s even more puzzling is why you keep associating me with mining… My Eve Career has, is, and always will be centered on Exploration and Mission running… Most of the older posters here know that… Guess I was mistaken in thinking you knew that too… Anyway, this side track from the thread topic has gone on long enough… I sincerely wish that you and the rest of the Eve Community have a great Holiday Season… ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/162 "2024-12-16T07:55:52Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I don’t think mining was high on CCP list of priorities! It was pretty high actually. Many of the games original systems were built around how fast materials could be mined. They had a mini panic when they discovered players were using jet cans to speed it up. ---
**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/163 "2024-12-16T11:26:08Z")
Good morning, civilized people 😊 This is for all you quarrelers out there ( and in here ) ![1000003823](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/3/3/933abf7bbf66f804f97f69fbee9edcd7de9a63f6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/164 "2024-12-17T01:53:14Z")
I remember that, but still no mining ships at inception? I didn’t start in 03 so you have me there. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > thinking you knew that too… All I see you ask for is safety. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/165 "2024-12-17T03:56:11Z")
There weren’t any specialty ships at all on launch lol. Not because those specialties weren’t a priority but because it was more efficient to make a few hulls do many things ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/166 "2024-12-17T03:59:19Z")
Still kinda proves my point that “Everyone Vs Everyone” was their main point of gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/167 "2024-12-17T05:06:18Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/3/c/93c2a2c57637bee8f7eca35bf1710a8af7e15f01.png) This forum, just like the state of the game and CCP’s management is pure trash. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/168 "2024-12-17T05:37:18Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > English has too many exceptions. there is English… and then there is… Americanese ---
**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/169 "2024-12-17T06:56:33Z")
Good morning, Distaine 😊 > [@Distaine](#): > > This forum, just like the state of the game and CCP’s management is pure trash If you criticize CCP, the forum or the game itself then your posts will be hidden. Imagine you go to McDonald’s and start telling the employees that the food sucks, the service is deplorable, it’s too expensive and their toilets stink. At some point the manager will come out and kindly ask you go eat somewhere else. Take good care, ma’am ☺ ---
**Author:** ![Tatiana\_Vlillirier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tatiana_vlillirier/32/444442_2.png) [@Tatiana\_Vlillirier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tatiana_Vlillirier)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/170 "2024-12-17T07:52:26Z")
> gankers > elite pvp unit > please don’t be rude with me So pathetic ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/171 "2024-12-17T09:48:26Z")
This is a really arrogant point you tried to make and completely absurd. Whats the alternative? …Agree that the emperor is wearing clothes. The only players who will be left are a small group of weak-minded fools who think just like you. Enjoy yourself and this fake world of censorship and bad management… and keep reading threads about why Eve is trash now while claiming no one said anything… Ill be saying, I told you so while playing something better. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/172 "2024-12-17T10:15:41Z")
Good to see the forum hasn’t changed. Makes it easy to slip back in. Love to all. ---
**Author:** ![Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shikoku_hiroswa/32/443936_2.png) [@Shikoku\_Hiroswa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shikoku_Hiroswa)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/173 "2024-12-17T10:45:40Z")
Hello, Distaine 😊 > [@Distaine](#): > > This is a really arrogant point you tried to make and completely absurd. Whats the alternative? I never said I agreed with it. It wasn’t a point, it was an observation. But I am not surprised that your posts get hidden. You really have a toxic attitude. Enjoy your day now. Edit: You should change your name to ‘Disdain’ 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/174 "2024-12-17T15:01:59Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > All I see you ask for is safety. Well you’re definitely mistaken and more importantly, you seriously need to have your eyesight checked… ---
**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/175 "2024-12-17T19:32:13Z")
@James_Fuchs Who hurt your feelings? I shall strive to be civil. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/176 "2024-12-17T19:37:46Z")
You had to make a new character to post here? ---
**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/177 "2024-12-17T21:03:53Z")
Yes this a new character and I post in the forum yes ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/178 "2024-12-17T21:11:27Z")
How long will you use this one? ---
**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/179 "2024-12-17T21:12:44Z")
Unknown. It depends on a lot of factors not yet factored, madam. ---
**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062/180 "2024-12-17T22:11:48Z")
> [@Smarter\_ThanU](#): > > have become intolerant of free speech. There’s a difference between free speech and freedom of expression. What many seem to forget is that they may say what they like, but it does not come without consequences. You cannot yell fire in a crowded theatre and think you are protected from the consequences of such an action because you have a right to free speech. The internet removes such consequences so people think that they can say anything they want with impunity. THIS is the problem. To complain without offering a solution is a waste of everyone’s time. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-on-the-state-of-civility-on-this-forum/471062.md?page=10)