# Open Letter to CCP from a Bitter ol' Vet **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650 "2020-05-08T23:28:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Faxtarious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faxtarious/32/319099_2.png) [@Faxtarious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faxtarious)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/1 "2020-05-08T23:28:47Z")
Hey there CCP, It’s been a while. I haven’t been able to really log in those past two years. RL can be a bit of a handful once you’re neck-deep in your 30’s. But I always made sure to log in and have a quick look at the new features and Events and keep my client up to date. I couldn’t maintain a sub with RL because I wasn’t active at all and maintaining the Sub with plex would drain my ISK fast and I wasn’t doing anything to replace those funds. With the whole lockdown thing, I had found time to do some gaming and got dragged into a project called Star Citizen. Yeah, the guys who “borrowed” the Venture design. It’s a beautiful tech demo and a beautiful work of art. Basically the work of art EVE became after Trinity. But that’s where the positive experience ended. Everything else has a horrible after taste. The sheer capital the team behind this tech demo has amassed and the little they have to show for it is beyond belief. As I was fighting today with some of their weird bugs, it dawned on me… I was looking for that EVE 2004 - 2009 experience. But it was in the wrong place. Back in 03’ when you asked us to test EVE out with you, it was one hell of a ride. An unforgettable experience. Cloud Imperium Games is not Crowd Control Productions, and I doubt they will ever reach your success. BUT boy oh boy have they made that free money!! Half a Bill in the bank (or wasted) and not even a working beta… Let alone a stable Roadmap. To think of what EVE could have been if you guys had Half a bill to develop it. I’m coming back… I would rather spend my lockdown with you guys than over there. Thank you for the Decade and a Half CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/2 "2020-05-08T23:38:37Z")
um, ok welcome back, i suppose. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/3 "2020-05-08T23:43:10Z")
can i have your star citizen stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Faxtarious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faxtarious/32/319099_2.png) [@Faxtarious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faxtarious)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/4 "2020-05-08T23:47:28Z")
I wish I could… But that hasn’t even been implemented yet after 5 years of Dev. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/5 "2020-05-08T23:54:56Z")
Star Citizen is a ponzi scheme. ---
**Author:** ![Trudeaux\_Margaret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trudeaux_margaret/32/245591_2.png) [@Trudeaux\_Margaret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trudeaux_Margaret)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/6 "2020-05-09T00:08:09Z")
Great to see a positive thread for a change. 😄 Welcome back ---
**Author:** ![Faxtarious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faxtarious/32/319099_2.png) [@Faxtarious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faxtarious)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/7 "2020-05-09T00:33:21Z")
Good to be back!! And happy I could contribute to a bit of positivity. I know the DDoS attack was a bit rough. The one before was a pain as well. Selling my carrier for my first 30 days. will be jumping around trying out everything I missed. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/8 "2020-05-09T00:36:32Z")
You can try scamming people with the hypernet instead of using the market. You might make a bit more money that way. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/9 "2020-05-09T00:43:19Z")
Don’t be ridiculous. A Ponzi scheme actually pretends you’ll get your money back. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/10 "2020-05-09T00:55:05Z")
CIG has been consistent that players won’t need more than a basic game package, all ships will be available via in-game actions once they turn off alpha credits. That will be the clearest sign that they’ve ‘gone live.’ But EVE is now, and trying hard for ‘forever’ - so welcome back 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/11 "2020-05-09T00:58:39Z")
> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#): > > CIG has been consistent that players won’t need more than a basic game package, all ships will be available via in-game actions once they turn off alpha credits. That will be the clearest sign that they’ve ‘gone live.’ [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/c/6c43563645ccc0b8480d3235095397a222b4d3de.jpeg "Journey - Don't Stop Believin' (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs) ---
**Author:** ![Faxtarious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faxtarious/32/319099_2.png) [@Faxtarious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faxtarious)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/12 "2020-05-09T02:05:18Z")
This is so fitting lol ---
**Author:** ![The\_Green\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_green_angel/32/203059_2.png) [@The\_Green\_Angel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Green_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/13 "2020-05-09T02:22:27Z")
Wrlcome back! ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/14 "2020-05-09T02:40:31Z")
Star Citizen will still be nothing more than a tech demo 37 years from now after they have crowd-funded it to the GDP of a small country… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/15 "2020-05-09T02:41:23Z")
Their IRL conference room will be real nice, though. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp-from-a-bitter-ol-vet/239650/16 "2020-08-07T02:41:32Z")
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