# Open Letter to CCP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 3, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309 "2020-10-03T19:21:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/81 "2020-10-05T01:41:18Z")

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1 minute later, I did not open the letter.

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_3 minutes later:_  
Where are we supposed to buy a ticket to harass the author by making false claims that nobody understands him and other gaslighting while spying on him ?

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**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/82 "2020-10-05T01:53:33Z")

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> [@Dictateur\_Imperator](#):
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> b)Futur update goal by CCP:  
> The update to end the starvation and start redistribution has multiple goals : Give an interest to each part of space, make a dynamic economy on resources and increase number of new players, beau cause they will be able to provide resources people in other parts of space will need.  
> We could understand it gives a role to HS/LS/0.0 and WH (Yes for WH actually it gives the role of space harder to live, to avoid people totally live inside).  
> **The dynamic economy of resources we need to see it as meta level: -If too many people farm in HS it will decrease HS mineral price, so people will move to other parts of space**. And the same will happen with 0.0 and LS. So your economy is driven by economy and you need to “control” territory all across the galaxy to be self-sufisant, or you need to trade.  
> Increase of new players (retention): By making some ore only in HS the main goal is to make some new player who doesn’t want to play a lot and just stay in HS could have nice income by mining to extract tritanium who will not be in concurrence with 0.0 miners who have more powerful ships to extract it.

I read to this part, as I disagree with this part, didn’t bother to read any further.

CCP have tried in the past to spread people out, mission agents problem was those close to the borders of low-sec started giving you low-sec missions. Players moved away from those agents.

Those that are happy to go into low-sec, WHs etc already do.

Those that remain in high-sec remain there because that’s where they want to be. You won’t force them out of high-sec into low-sec, null or anywhere else if they don’t want to go. You will just force them out of the game.

Seems to me it’ll just be history repeating itself.

Edit:  
If this was RL you could force people to go where they don’t want to go or make it so they have to go in order to be able to afford to live. But this is a game and as such you can’t force people to do things they don’t want to do.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/83 "2020-10-05T02:22:34Z")

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Wall of Text hits your ship for 50K damage (obliterating)

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/84 "2020-10-05T06:03:36Z")

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> [@you\_are\_evil](#):
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> Makes Eve less hardcore

You have plenty of soft and easy space games around, leave Eve to people who like it the way it is, deep, dangerous and toxic. Damn, the game is already too easy, i miss the “don’t forget to upgrade your clone” stuff…

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/85 "2020-10-05T07:11:07Z")

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> [@Dictateur\_Imperator](#):
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> In very short summary, the update makes some mineral

Sorry, but I did not make it past this line ☝ .

Is this just another tears post from some farmer trash that thinks because resources get scarce he will not earn as much ISK as he used too and now he predicts a mass exodus of players because of this completely wrong assumption?

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/86 "2020-10-05T07:16:07Z")

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Wow, and I thought I posted walls of text…

I might try to read this tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/87 "2020-10-05T07:19:00Z")

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If this is the only way you could think to do that, you dont have enough imagination to tell CCP how to run its business better.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/88 "2020-10-05T07:21:09Z")

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Hes not JK Rowling

Though he does write like him

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/89 "2020-10-05T08:27:41Z")

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Yes so read the tittle ; Futur update goal by CCP:

I you disagree why you see it : You disagree outcome CCP hope.  
So you agree with my argumentation.

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/90 "2020-10-05T08:28:39Z")

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Problem is difficult != boring.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/91 "2020-10-05T08:30:19Z")

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Ahem… for you maybe, for me problem solving is what makes Eve great.

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/92 "2020-10-05T08:33:52Z")

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Wrong assumption.  
As i have already said in comment (and if you haven’t read the text ) : I don’t mine.  
CCP haven’t nerf my incomme really (and it’s a too marginal gameplay, so unless CCP want to adress a very specific gameplay in theory i will not be affect by change for upcoming years so …).

The post is more about how CCP make update, and why they make mistake on outcome prediction. And why this kinf of fail make we loose player. If you read it and think it’s farmer tears, you are totally wrong, i just use the next update as exemple.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/93 "2020-10-05T08:57:32Z")

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> [@Dictateur\_Imperator](#):
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> why they make mistake on outcome prediction

How can you know this?

Do you know what their prediction was?

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/94 "2020-10-05T09:08:28Z")

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They announce it…

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/95 "2020-10-05T09:57:47Z")

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Link to their outcome prediction?

You know, this isn’t a live economy where people lose jobs and starve to death if thing change. This is a game and the most important aspect of it is that things are lead to interesting gameplay overall and not just for a nishe of farmers and wanabe space empire warlords.

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/96 "2020-10-05T10:02:09Z")

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They have made a twitch about this (the same day they make annoucement if i remimber). Some comment also on a CSM post on reddit.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/97 "2020-10-05T10:09:15Z")

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An anecdote is not a link

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/98 "2020-10-05T10:22:18Z")

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Ho well better:

> **[Resource Distribution Update | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/qh7pp7/resource-distribution-update)**
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> Shortage Phase Step 4, Redistribution Phase Step 1

  
They’re devblog have a short summary to of the outcome. so i will just quote :  
More movement in Lowsec - and potentially more destruction  
Increase of mining ship losses  
More market transactions for ores/minerals  
Mineral income from refining items to increase  
Prices of minerals to change

So yes they assume people will go make mining in other space like LS.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/99 "2020-10-05T10:25:44Z")

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I agree with their assessment. This change will introduce new opportunities with more risk that will lead to more conflict and destruction.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-ccp/271309/100 "2020-10-05T10:28:31Z")

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