# Open Letter to Harkon Thorson

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542 "2019-12-15T02:46:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Saava\_Valtovist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saava_valtovist/32/279695_2.png) [@Saava\_Valtovist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saava_Valtovist)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/21 "2019-12-16T14:04:39Z")

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I, too, like to start my day with a hearty breakfast and some extremely normal vid of an extrajudicial execution by unmarked, masked soldiers.

> [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#):
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> I’ve definitely shot people for less, in all honesty.

Careful not to cut yourself on all that edge.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/22 "2019-12-16T16:13:13Z")

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> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> No one has said that U’K’s plan was to infiltrate the refugees.

> [@Shalee\_Lianne\_Cerra](#):
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> This man attempted to blend in with the Octanneve refugees

Lady Cerra goes on her little rant about ‘Harkon’s horrific schemes’ and then points out this guy among the refugees as part of it. As a sleeper agent. Sleeper agents don’t activate and then go trying to infiltrate groups. Sleeper agents infiltrate months or years ahead of time, and wait until activated. That’s what makes them sleeper agents.

> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> You’re conflating two different pieces of Scope news:

Really? Let’s take another look!

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> - Multiple Deathglow Attacks Against Amarr Towns and Industrial Concerns with “Heavy Casualties” Reported on Huola VII
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> - House Sarum Alleges Minmatar Terrorists Responsible After Ushra’Khan Operatives Captured on Huola VII

Sooo… I’m conflating these to be one thing, am I? If they’re not already connected, what is House Sarum alleging those Minmatar terrorists are responsible _for_? Oh, WAIT! **I KNOW**. House Sarum is alleging Minmatar terrorists are responsible _people_ who clean up their own messes and make sure all of their committments are met! That’s it, right?

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**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/23 "2019-12-16T16:44:11Z")

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I, too, like to start my day with a hearty breakfast and the pseudo-pedantic rantings of a lonely soul who will punch down at anything in sight.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Sleeper agents don’t activate and then go trying to infiltrate groups. Sleeper agents infiltrate months or years ahead of time, and wait until activated. That’s what makes them sleeper agents.

Yes, and I’m certain that’s exactly the definition Lady Shalee Lianne had in mind when she wrote her post, because she was accessing the Culome Dictionary of Pedantry while she wrote it.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Sooo… I’m conflating these to be one thing, am I? If they’re not already connected, what is House Sarum alleging those Minmatar terrorists are responsible _for_ ?

We all know that, had it been in your best interest, you would have pointed out that the second bullet point does not clarify what it is that House Sarum is alleging the “Minmatar Terrorists” are responsible for, because there is no object attached to the word “responsible” or whatever the grammar rules are. But it wasn’t in your favor this time, so you skipped it.

Not to mention that the main point of my argument is that

> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> **I** am not blaming the Deathglow attack on them.

Even if your claim that Sarum is blaming them is correct, 1) their accusation has almost nothing to do with this topic, and 2) your source is a news outlet that recently claimed Sarum had put Zashev at the head of a Reclaiming fleet, and then had to retract that claim.

(Not only that, but your basis for this blame is that the two bullet points are right beside each other. Not had your coffee yet?)

What remains is that House Cerra has not blamed U’K for the Deathglow attack, and neither have I. Our concern is the operative that was found among the Moisant refugees. Those are two distinct and separate occurrences.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/24 "2019-12-16T16:51:26Z")

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> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> exactly the definition

And pray, what _other_ conditions would warrant ‘sleeper agent’ rather than ‘agent’? Honestly, are you really reduced to ‘words don’t mean things’?

Actually, looking at the rest of your reply, yes, that appears to be _exactly_ what you’re reduced to. Have fun with Blackwhatever Intrathingy, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/25 "2019-12-16T18:05:21Z")

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Pedantry, Exhibits A through MCXVII.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/26 "2019-12-16T18:15:44Z")

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Pilot Quatrevaux for someone who seems to be nominally on the side of the Matari you sure are carrying a lot of water for an Amarrian (no matter if this slaver is reformed or not).

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/27 "2019-12-16T18:32:46Z")

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“We bring death!” say one group of capsuleers.

“We bring _a different kind of death_ !” say a different group of capsuleers.

Yes. Well. Quite.

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**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/28 "2019-12-16T21:40:36Z")

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> [@Anabella\_Rella](#):
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> you sure are carrying a lot of water for an Amarrian

The Amarrian in question is housing a few thousand of my kin.

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Cetes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vlad_cetes/32/391891_2.png) [@Vlad\_Cetes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vlad_Cetes)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/29 "2019-12-17T02:44:28Z")

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> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> Likewise, no one has blamed U’K for the Deathglow attack. In fact, evidence points to that attack having been executed by—you guessed it—the Blood Raiders. (And I’d happily bet that Chakaid took the chance to take potshots at an opponent.)

Well evidence points to the whoever made the attack had access to Imperial Armaments chem rockets, but that could be Omirites, or Khanid, or Sarum false flag. Until the munition is traced any further speculation on that is fruitless.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/30 "2019-12-17T15:24:51Z")

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Absolutely barbaric.

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**Author:** ![Sahriah\_BloodStone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahriah_bloodstone/32/174915_2.png) [@Sahriah\_BloodStone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahriah_BloodStone)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/31 "2019-12-21T07:00:29Z")

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And here I thought you to be a woman of practicality. Fascinating

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/open-letter-to-harkon-thorson/206542/32 "2020-03-20T07:00:35Z")

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