# Orca point defense high slot for PVE **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [September 26, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483 "2019-09-26T15:12:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/41 "2019-10-10T14:30:20Z")
And this is why we need to nerf mining drones. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/42 "2019-10-10T18:00:12Z")
> [@Hune\_Acami](#): > > But since you can only have 5 drones out at a time that is 1 or more mining drones you have to pull back and you lose the mining cycles. My goal is to keep the mining drones at their task as long as possible. Sounds like you just want to be lazy and greedy at the same time. Tough luck, buttercup, EVE shouldn’t make it easier for you to be lazy and greedy like this. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/43 "2019-10-10T19:04:49Z")
> [@Hune\_Acami](#): > > I am bringing combat drones, But since you can only have 5 drones out at a time that is 1 or more mining drones you have to pull back and you lose the mining cycles. My goal is to keep the mining drones at their task as long as possible. You can’t have it both ways. Eve is a game about meaningful choices. Luckily the orcas drone bay is huge, so you can swap drones on the fly. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/44 "2019-10-12T08:38:19Z")
> [@Hune\_Acami](#): > > you have to pull back and you lose the mining cycles THE HORROR D: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/2/026c00ea24ca3a5d1bd6d6d1444ea10c21483b98.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Hune\_Acami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hune_acami/32/508484_2.png) [@Hune\_Acami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hune_Acami)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/45 "2019-10-17T21:41:43Z")
Laziness and Greed, that IS what drives EVE. The ISK per hour mantra is a direct result of that. Yes Scoots and Daichi, I want to push the boundary of what this Orca can do for itself. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/46 "2019-10-18T16:21:01Z")
> [@Hune\_Acami](#): > > I want to push the boundary of what this Orca can do for itself. The Orca can already defend itself with drones. It can already do the thing you want it to do (defend itself). CCP will not add a PDS to the Orca because that’s a stupid idea. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orca-point-defense-high-slot-for-pve/192483/47 "2020-01-16T16:21:03Z")
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