# Orcas should never have been turned into mining vessels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 8, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526 "2019-10-08T19:08:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/209 "2019-10-12T17:52:08Z")
> [@Von\_Roshi](#): > > And his odds of dying in those orcas is near zero because Orca’s have a ridiculous amount of HP for such a cheap ship. Have you heard about the triglavians ? they will destroy your oca if you go afk. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/210 "2019-10-12T18:16:57Z")
Totally this, so a quick test I went to look at Orca’s on Zkill and the second loss from the top was from Trigs, I would think AFK moon mining, the third loss was from Diamond rats, as was the fifth. Go a bit further down and there is another destroyed by Trigs. Going AFK in an Orca in hisec is very risky indeed. Do people think before they post, come on @Von_Roshi ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/211 "2019-10-12T18:18:59Z")
Yet this afk orca fleet has not lost any orcas to trigs. There’s something you’re missing. I wonder what it is. Hmm 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/212 "2019-10-12T18:19:43Z")
pretty much that he is not AFK ? ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/213 "2019-10-12T18:21:08Z")
Nope. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/214 "2019-10-12T18:21:47Z")
yes. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/215 "2019-10-12T18:23:07Z")
I think you misunderstand. There is a reason he has not lost orcas to Trigs. And it’s not because he is not afk. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/216 "2019-10-12T18:23:23Z")
no he is not. Try again. edit : if we talk about the ice belt, then the trigs dont warp to those and it sucks. It should be reported as a bug. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/217 "2019-10-12T18:25:45Z")
I see we have an immature one here. I am the one who brought this to attention, who has offered screenshots of it. I doubt you’re even in the same system. Don’t accuse me of lying. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/218 "2019-10-12T18:29:25Z")
Yes you are lying about your knowledge of him being AFK, unless you know the player personally IRL. I saw people I thought AFK for hours actually being actually ATK, as they were able to tell me for how long I had been on the grid. You are the immature one as you claim BS. You don’t **know** he is AFK. You **assume** he is and draw conclusion off an unbased assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/219 "2019-10-12T18:31:42Z")
I think that he does go for long afk. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/220 "2019-10-12T18:32:20Z")
No you don’t. You WANT him to be AFK, therefore you ignore any sign that he may not be AFK. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/221 "2019-10-12T18:33:05Z")
Look, day after day he afk’s in the ice anomaly, usually for hours after it’s long finished. There’s some other stuff that gives away the fact that he is afk, too. I don’t how I let myself get dragged into this argument of whether he is definetly afk or not. It doesn’t even matter. The fact is the Orca allows you to AFK mine for hours on end and if you have enough of them you can do entire anomalies AFK. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/223 "2019-10-12T18:34:34Z")
You’ve lost the argument, now stop making yourself look foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/224 "2019-10-12T18:34:47Z")
wow dude, and here lies the underlining problem with eve dudes like yourself, take everything literal, no hate no fear no resent on my part, me I enjoy most things in eve except literal people like yourself, you sir can’t different between reality and a game… ![fairy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/0/c0e2b649e05234ca7a2c5f4d449e3977c47f5063.jpeg) me I’m merely stating like the Carrier is NOT a Hauler the Orca is NOT a miner, sure if it stops your gaming style then too bad the ORCA Supports Mining ships not replaces them. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/225 "2019-10-12T18:35:30Z")
> [@Von\_Roshi](#): > > You’ve lost the argument, now stop making yourself look foolish. you’ve lost the argument, stop affirming BS. You know nothing of what you affirm. ---
**Author:** ![Grumpy\_Goon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grumpy_goon/32/164601_2.png) [@Grumpy\_Goon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grumpy_Goon)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/226 "2019-10-12T18:36:55Z")
To the defense of @Anderson_Geten that player might have sound off and could be managing PI or manufacturing queues or even organising corp events in the calendar… things do take time in EVE and people combining things might appear AFK while they aren’t really AFK, they are busy playing EVE and can’t be bothered to hold your hand. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/227 "2019-10-12T18:39:11Z")
That or any other thing, like receiving a call phone while playing, and considering that losing miner II is not a reason to pause the conversation. Just random examples. Just because he can’t imagine another reason, does not mean that he is right. ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/228 "2019-10-12T18:40:03Z")
Read further down. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/229 "2019-10-12T18:41:19Z")
Stop lying already. You don’t know. Stop claiming you have the capacity to know what other persons are actually doing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526.md?page=12)