# Orcas should never have been turned into mining vessels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 8, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526 "2019-10-08T19:08:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/144 "2019-10-11T12:17:30Z")
Thanks! Hey, can you access locator agents and seek out one of them? I can’t and Pedro isn’t around enough to check. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/4/8471794ecd98313ceadc8fc223c8feb519cd09fa.png) I’m beginning to wonder why the OP cropped the image like this. ---
**Author:** ![Aone\_Clyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aone_clyde/32/164410_2.png) [@Aone\_Clyde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aone_Clyde)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/145 "2019-10-11T12:38:10Z")
Okay let me get this straight - you wish that the orca design to be changed from what is because someone - spent time and resources to train alt’s , get the ships, fit them out and multi-box with 20+ Orca’s? Well if I had the time and resources to do that, I sure would, but I don’t also I don’t complain about someone who can does this. If someone wants to spend their real time, resources and game time doing something they enjoy, which doesn’t really affect other players, because the resources in question replenish after a time. Heck that is their choice. Unfair? well sure if you look at it from a players point of view, who just turned up to mine the same resource. But then you can simply move out and go somewhere else. So I disagree with changing the Orca, it serves its purpose for most of us. Why shouldn’t an industrial command ship be able to mine? basically you don’t offer a decent case for your ‘complaint’ ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/146 "2019-10-11T12:40:48Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > Good point. Anyone got some numbers we could put into a graph? Unreliable due to travel time. But the afk friendly nature of orcas makes them scale better than barges. Use 5 barges or 20 orcas? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/147 "2019-10-11T14:37:45Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Unreliable due to travel time It’s irrelevant. We’re talking about AFK mining. Presumably the mining is done after traveling, heh. Also if you’re mining ice you just stay in that one system, which will be 0.5 and possibly have moon belts as well. This “travel time” is just a red herring. Unless you’re referring to drone travel time which is also just a trifle and a nitpick, as well as being very beside the point. That point being that AFK activity is bad. Rocks are also sufficiently large enough the you can either park the Orca right on it, or find rocks close enough and assign 1 drone per rock. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/148 "2019-10-11T14:38:22Z")
Gosh Scoots … Just go easy on the cheesy poofs already. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_schweinebacke/32/497371_2.png) [@Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Schweinebacke)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/150 "2019-10-11T14:55:46Z")
I found Theocritus for you. From: Sihsad Aphuka Sent: 2019.10.11 14:49 I’ve found your scumsucker. He is in the Teonusude system, Fittakan constellation of the Molden Heath region. With regards, Sihsad Aphuka ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/151 "2019-10-11T14:56:05Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > And with those modules, a good target if there are sufficient people. > I think I will stay with my cheaper, practical fit. 🙂 All I said was that it was possible, not that anyone should. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/152 "2019-10-11T14:58:58Z")
🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/153 "2019-10-11T14:59:15Z")
No wonder you don’t understand a thing. You are talking theoretical maximum value while people are talking practical values. psssst. Nobody cares. Also good luck overheating those modules just exactly when the gank starts. > [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > Good point. Anyone got some numbers we could put into a graph? depends on the fit and the implants. With michii and highwall+ boost, 5 mining drone II ; ignore tank for covetor/hulk (they can’t anyhow), add tank for others. hulk : 65.8 m³/s with T2 mining augs covetor : 54.2m³/s higgs+webifier+nozzle to remain aligned. skiff yield : 49.1 m³/s with 83k ehp mack yield : 46.1 m³/s, 33k ehp skiff tank : 42.8m³/s with 138k ehp. (non overloaded lol) mack tank : 39.7 m³/s, 59k ehp procurer : 33.4 m³/s, 76k ehp orca : 24.3 m/s, 400k ehp ---
**Author:** ![Von\_Roshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/von_roshi/32/164083_2.png) [@Von\_Roshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Von_Roshi)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/154 "2019-10-11T15:34:20Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Thanks! > > Hey, can you access locator agents and seek out one of them? > I can’t and Pedro isn’t around enough to check. > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/4/8471794ecd98313ceadc8fc223c8feb519cd09fa.png) > > I’m beginning to wonder why the OP cropped the image like this. I didn’t crop the image like that, you did. You can see it’s minmatar space from the original picture, not the one you cropped. Someone also did a locator on the orcas and posted their location almost immediately after this post was made, back near the top. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/155 "2019-10-11T16:35:20Z")
Cheers, mate! 😃 On a related note … I’ve found the Orca that’s permafarming the COSMOS site. The one from another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/156 "2019-10-11T16:36:30Z")
Mate, that’s the image you’ve posted: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/e/0e71f72b96544df6e26f47027796b01b0b3f5ccc.jpeg) It’s cropped. Not showing the system. Anyhow, I got what I wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/157 "2019-10-11T16:39:22Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > In the end we have to remind ourselves what happens when a forum is free to join for everyone: > > The amount of low quality people increases, > the amount of high quality people decreases Or if the forum isn’t very well moderated, or doesn’t have rules to keep the quality of posting up to what you would consider an acceptable level. This one appears to be the latter (for an example of the former I would point you toward the official BioWare forums, if they still existed). > **I have a suggestion for where you might go to find better interactions.** > > If you want high-quality moderation I might suggest [Spacebattles.com](http://Spacebattles.com). There are some EvE players there and you can probably get a good debate/argument going if you want, but be warned: disagreeing with someone is fine - even encouraged - but keep your bile restrained or the mods _will_ smack you for it. Just read the forum rules, stay (relatively) civil and avoid fallacious argumentation, and you should do just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/158 "2019-10-11T16:40:32Z")
> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#): > > but keep your bile restrained or the mods _will_ smack you for it. That’s actually great and I prefer that over an environment like this one. I’ll have a look at some point. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/159 "2019-10-11T16:52:37Z")
See you there! ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/161 "2019-10-11T19:30:41Z")
CONTEXT. 133 minutes MINIMUM meaning ZERO travel time ZERO interruptions ZERO interaction with locking fresh rocks etc. ANYBODY who has mined in ANYTHING will tell you that kind of situation DOES. NOT. HAPPEN. Using T2 mining drones and a fully drone fit Orca will get those things moving at 1500m/s IF YOU ARE FULLY SKILLED. 1500m/s around a spod rock X km wide introduces travel time lag as mining drones orbit the rock they’re mining. Seriously, you sound like someone who knows dick about drone mining. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/162 "2019-10-11T19:37:05Z")
sorry, using 24 alts is not soloing. Using 1 alt is soloing. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/163 "2019-10-11T19:37:07Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > Seriously, you sound like someone who knows dick about drone mining. I don’t give a damn. It’s just a tiny bit less cancerous than farming NPCs literally 24/7 with drones. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/164 "2019-10-11T19:37:34Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > Seriously, you sound like someone who knows dick about drone mining. Are you surprised ? ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/orcas-should-never-have-been-turned-into-mining-vessels/194526/165 "2019-10-11T19:38:18Z")
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