# Oumuamua - artificially made object! 🥳 **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [November 7, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847 "2018-11-07T12:03:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/102 "2018-11-09T11:51:50Z")
They also claim there that its possible its artificial. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/103 "2018-11-09T11:54:45Z")
Yeah, yet you state several times in this thread, that Oumuamua being artificial is the conclusion. It might just be a language barrier and that you don’t quite understand what you are actually typing. But so far, as well in the OP, you clearly state that the scientists have come to the conclusion that Oumuamua was artificial, which is not true if one reads the article and understand what they are saying. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/104 "2018-11-09T12:05:41Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > Yeah, yet you state several times in this thread, that Oumuamua being artificial is the conclusion. > > It might just be a language barrier and that you don’t quite understand what you are actually typing. You dont understand how that works, I understand what I write, its the different meaning of a word you cant know because you never imagined someone in poland can use a translator that gives such meaning. Its me who actually resolved that problem. A może mam pisać po polsku, ciekawe co byście wtedy zrozumieli? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/105 "2018-11-09T12:08:08Z")
Rozumiem polskiego. Mozesz pisac po polsku, ale to nie zmienia faktu ze jestesz bledny. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/106 "2018-11-09T12:09:44Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > you clearly state that the scientists have come to the conclusion that Oumuamua was artificial Nie, kiedy piszę że naukowcy wysnuli wniosek że Oumuamua jest obiektem sztucznym, nienaturalnym, stworzonym przez jakąś istotę, to nie zamyka to tematu, absolutnie. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/107 "2018-11-09T12:10:18Z")
Piszesz jakbyś nie mógł. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/108 "2018-11-09T12:12:53Z")
Nie mam polskiego tastatury installowany. Wniosek byl **prawdopodobny**. Ale w twoim OP, piszesz jakby to byl jedyny wniosek. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/109 "2018-11-09T12:17:19Z")
Nie, nie to mam na myśli, uważam tylko, że jest najbardziej prawdopodobny. **Most probable.** Ok? I nie wniosek był prawdopodobny, to wniosek jest propozycją, taki jest sens. Tutaj wnioski nie są ostateczne. Mogą zostać zawsze podważone. To nie jest religia z dogmatami, to jest nauka. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/110 "2018-11-09T12:27:21Z")
You can keep writing in Polish, my Polish is a bit rusty so taking too much effort to write a few lines. I think what people have been discussing about and what they’ve had issue with (at least for me), is that your own bias have influenced what the OP was trying to say. As you say yourself, you consider the conclusion of Oumuamua of being artificial to be the most likely. But that is your own opinion, since nowhere in the linked paper does the scientists take any favor in terms of what theory would be most probable. When you then relay the scientific study, as if the scientists came to the final conclusion that the object was artificial, I think you can see why some people might have some problems with that. Anyway, I think we generally agree on what the paper said. It is basically just how this information was then presented in this thread that was the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/111 "2018-11-09T12:28:39Z")
Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/112 "2018-11-09T12:38:03Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > But that is your own opinion Based on the data and calculations. I never thought about that PROPOSAL being final. I only wrote its most probable, very plausible it was artificial, for me. Data and calculations and proposal was their. I only added most probable from myself. 😏 Also, based on assumption that it was here for a reason, because we here have a good planetary candidate to have some life. And someone could have wanted to explore it by sending solar sail powered probe. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/113 "2018-11-09T12:52:16Z")
Still just an opinion… No matter how much butter you put on it, it remains just that… ---
**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/114 "2018-11-09T12:55:37Z")
Original post: > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > As I suspected. Oumuamua was too strange to be just an asteroid or comet. **Scientists actually think the same**. Scientists from Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, using mathemathics **have came to a conclusion that its artificially made object:** last post: > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I never thought about that PROPOSAL being final. I only wrote its most probable, very plausible it was artificial, for me. Data and calculations and proposal was their. > > I only added most probable from myself. You aren’t exactly precise in your language then. You specifically said the paper was conclusive in their discussion about it being artificial. But however, it is nice that you have understood it all now, and can speak about your opinions in a clearer way. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/115 "2018-11-09T13:02:45Z")
It was a mistake in translation from wniosek. You assumed it means something different than I. In polish it have different meaning, it can be “proposal” and in english it sounds like “final verdict” when translated direclty, but it actually depends on context when used in polish. I just used wrong word, that word causes problems because you can get wrong idea without context. I should have used proposal, but that did not sound right as it was more like justified proposal, so in polish its wniosek, that happens to be a conclusion when translated directly. Do you understand now? ---
**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/116 "2018-11-09T13:12:57Z")
I do. And I am sorry for being a little harsh over a mis-understanding, but I hope also that you can understand why people, especially me, got riled up by such a translation… issue… Especially when the translation… issue… is so central to the meaning of the sentence. Translation is hard, and subtle things can either be lost or emphasized when translated. But all in all, I’m just happy to see people as exited about space-science as me, even if our subjective takes on findings are incompatible. Glad we cleared it up. Fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/117 "2018-11-09T13:15:31Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/1/f1b44ec1fb91137a2550dc77232823be8ba922b4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/118 "2018-11-09T13:57:59Z")
> [@Colinde\_s](#): > > exited Also, why people keep writing exited when its actually excited? You are the second person here that makes this error. ---
**Author:** ![Colinde\_s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colinde_s/32/419040_2.png) [@Colinde\_s](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colinde_s)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/119 "2018-11-09T13:59:09Z")
Typo… ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Magni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_magni/32/424012_2.png) [@Dark\_Magni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Magni)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/120 "2018-11-09T23:17:25Z")
Boys, we have what is called an incomplete set of observations on this one. That means that we must either infer most probable explanations, or float some additional assumptions and premise to compliment our observations so that we can make inferred conclusions using deductive reasoning. But the key fact is, the object is now gone, and it is too late to test anything that we come up with… This is why when an object like this pops up, scientists scramble about like crazy bastards to take measurements and record observations. It is the only thing that really counts for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847/121 "2018-11-10T07:58:48Z")
> [@Dark\_Magni](#): > > … deductive reasoning. # I like duck seasoning myself. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/d/9da4494409de54a65549169f4b3935d6c9fc2cb8.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oumuamua-artificially-made-object/118847.md?page=7)