# Overall gameplay Issues **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070 "2024-01-23T14:25:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/512 "2024-01-30T00:41:07Z")
The only calamity I see around here is your woeful maths. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/513 "2024-01-30T00:43:22Z")
> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#): > > Everyone will eventually lose. That’s not true, some people are winners, some people are losers, the fates of destiny spin the wheat from the chaff, and those who are blessed will rise ever higher while those who are doomed will be cast out as fodder for the herd. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/514 "2024-01-30T00:45:07Z")
That’s what everybody thinks until reality comes crashing through the gates of pride & privilege. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/515 "2024-01-30T00:46:44Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > the fates of destiny spin the wheat from the chaff Not for a while, I’m watching my carbs after the holidays. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/516 "2024-01-30T00:48:30Z")
Ohh, what a snappy non-argument. Check your dictionary for that O word yet? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/517 "2024-01-30T00:56:44Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > some people are winners, some people are losers Winners understand how two completely different datasets can’t just be fiddled so that 7% in one corresponds to the _same_ 7% in another. At least not unless one has high aspirations to be a politician. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/518 "2024-01-30T01:00:43Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Winners understand how two completely different datasets can’t just be fiddled so that 7% in one corresponds to the _same_ 7% in another. At least not unless one has high aspirations to be a politician. Don’t forget executives. They do it too. A lot. ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/520 "2024-01-31T04:25:05Z")
Some people want to just undock and shoot at whatever they see. EVE has that. WH, NS, Poch. ---
**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/521 "2024-01-31T14:39:44Z")
> [@Jin\_Endares](#): > > WH, NS, Poch. eh wh people always roll their entrys, literally the safest spot to be in in eve NS is only playable with big fleets poch is empty af for the most time ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/522 "2024-01-31T14:59:29Z")
> [@Tirador69](#): > > wh people always roll their entrys They don’t. I did clear multiple anos + sigs earlier today in a T3 and didn’t roll away any of the four entries we had. And tbh I live in WHs for years and don’t know anyone who “always rolls the entries”. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/523 "2024-01-31T16:13:27Z")
> [@Tirador69](#): > > poch is empty af for the most time Have you tried roaming around until you score a kill or die? You know Pochven with WH rules is as empty as WH’s are empty. ,) ---
**Author:** ![Tirador69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirador69/32/399615_2.png) [@Tirador69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirador69)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/524 "2024-01-31T16:15:11Z")
a few days ago we set up a gatecamp in a good spot close to jita, we encountered around 4 people withhin 3 hours i know there are sometimes fleets ratting, but cant do much against 20 vargurs ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/525 "2024-01-31T16:24:57Z")
Maybe depends on timezone, most PvP-related activity is EU evening time. I was not there since insurgencies started, but the kb still shows the usual suspects being active, and a constant killfeed. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/526 "2024-01-31T18:10:33Z")
> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#): > > I’m starting to believe that Jita itself is a large problem with the game’s structure. It naturally attracts new players and even I feel like I cling to it too much after playing on and off for years. I’d rather pay over the odds in a back water system than use Jita, I might have been there a handful of times in over 11 years. ---
**Author:** ![Kudzu\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kudzu_shi/32/409490_2.png) [@Kudzu\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kudzu_Shi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/527 "2024-02-01T22:46:23Z")
I didn’t know how to reply to this so I asked ChatGPT: Hey Tirador, Your EVE rant is a whole mood! Screw the skill grind, and nullsec local chat is like playing peekaboo. PvP feels like rock-paper-scissors on steroids, and multiboxing? Just why? Let’s cook up some crazy fixes. Ready for the chaos! Fly reckless o7, Kudzu Shi ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/528 "2024-02-01T23:11:38Z")
Did you ask rogueAI on the eve discord. I assume its response will mirror ours lol ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/529 "2024-02-02T00:19:52Z")
This thread really blew up it seems… ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/530 "2024-02-02T02:03:10Z")
> [@Kudzu\_Shi](#): > > PvP feels like rock-paper-scissors on steroids I expect it does if half your kills are Ventures. ---
**Author:** ![Kudzu\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kudzu_shi/32/409490_2.png) [@Kudzu\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kudzu_Shi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/532 "2024-02-03T00:05:32Z")
![NOHONOR!](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/5/0/35035a8ff01e7f27b20f2c17139fa9758ee857b3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Madame\_Broker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madame_broker/32/480433_2.png) [@Madame\_Broker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madame_Broker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070/533 "2024-02-05T21:31:03Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > but youre not able to understand that you cant say why they leave and only making assumptions ! and i know your assumnptions are wrong because CCP said they are not leaving because they got killes your assuming your assumption is correct without evidence, CCP dosent have the evidence, i personally know over 20 people in RL fact to face that used to play eve, plus about 30+ in my gaming communitythat are tinterweb mates, and all but 2 of them left eve because of unfair ganking (some changes where made that corrected that flaw) and getting ganked by multiplexers (something that is still on going problem even though its banned activity). CCP has mentioned previously about sending questionairs to people who have left, except i do not know anyone who got one out of about 60 people that quit. I myself have had 2 gaps in play of several years and never recieved anything. So i assume that they only asked people that closed their account instead of just stopping playing. If you to a quick scrape of google or reddit you fint that leaving through ship loss is the most common topic for leaving with over 16 times the mentions as the next closest reasons ‘skill training too long’ and ‘toxicity’. I thinks its something that overlooked by the devs, not maliciously or even delibratly, because they are players of the game that in their own time play with large fleets, so they dont think about the new player experience much, and even if they create a new char, they immeadatly go the corp route with the people they already know, that creates more security that a new solo player wont have. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/overall-gameplay-issues/437070.md?page=27)