# "P I R A T" Will Have To Be Shut Down **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751 "2018-01-22T21:27:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shallanna_yassavi/32/449714_2.png) [@Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shallanna_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/162 "2018-01-25T08:45:42Z")
A bot written to watch local is a lot better at watching local than even the most careful player. It never gets distracted, it never gets tired of seeing nothing happen, it just… watches local until something it thinks is a threat shows up. Then it does whatever it’s written to do about the threat, like warp off to a safe or dock up. Heh, if written properly, it wouldn’t take _that_ much to have one ping for help in fleet, PANIC, and light a cyno. And count exactly what’s trying to kill it and post the details in fleet. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/163 "2018-01-25T08:46:53Z")
The issue is detailed in CCP Falcon’s post which the OP detailed, yes the impact will self correct, but still the imbalance in terms of assets will take a long time to dissipate and is a significant advantage compared to most other hisec entities. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/164 "2018-01-25T10:34:51Z")
I’ve seen footage of CCP nuking a large POS because it was bought with boting isk. Not sure where to find it but it’s out there. They’re also quite able and willing put people into negative balance if they don’t currently have the proceeds on hand . ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/165 "2018-01-25T14:16:24Z")
It will be a bit difficult to pin down I think, I just hope that CCP do a very good job on it because it is a high profile case and it did give them a massive unfair advantage despite what some others have said in this thread. No emotion from me, I will still be playing regardless of this because the reason I play is to test myself more than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Jahar\_Makanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jahar_makanen/32/341989_2.png) [@Jahar\_Makanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jahar_Makanen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/166 "2018-01-25T15:31:45Z")
I ever thought how these pirate mercs throw away hundred of milions of isk away wardecing small alliances just to get a few or no kills without a profit in return. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/167 "2018-01-25T15:37:06Z")
For all the wars they have little to no kills, they have wars wheRe they get billions Plus war contracts (I. E. Charging 500m to do whatever for a week) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/168 "2018-01-25T15:39:20Z")
Clearly its profitable, or they wouldnt do it, What remains to be seen, is if its profitable without botting, especially without the CEO doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/169 "2018-01-25T15:45:35Z")
smacking them silly and taking their poco empire off them again should net you the answer to that. i _had_ a list of pirat shell corps but thats about six months to a year out of date, eveuni and Tora Bushiedo would be the people to talk to about more up to date info if anyone’s thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/170 "2018-01-25T16:16:50Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > smacking them silly and taking their poco empire off them again should net you the answer to that. God speed to you and all o7 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/171 "2018-01-25T18:21:43Z")
Why the _meh let others take care of it_ attitude? Especially since you want them to go down… Nothing was ever accomplished by doing nothing… ---
**Author:** ![Coolkiller\_Ghost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coolkiller_ghost/32/247202_2.png) [@Coolkiller\_Ghost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coolkiller_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/172 "2018-01-26T03:37:01Z")
I have been in a wardeck by P I R A T E and yes it sucks, they really mess up the new player base but maybe players that are new should first get to know the game before moving to custom corps. I do believe that CODE is more responsible for a decline in new players as they just gank anybody that is semi afk or mining. I do agree with CODE’s code of honor but I do think there should be a better way for new guys to be separated so that they wont be killed by ‘‘accident’’ ---
**Author:** ![Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shallanna_yassavi/32/449714_2.png) [@Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shallanna_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/173 "2018-01-26T04:00:15Z")
Chicken, egg. In most of the starter corps, the fastest way to learn how to play the game is to join a player corp. Some of them have active players in chat who will explain things. This one… has some people in chat who will try to convince you to _triple-tank_ a ship: armor buffer, armor active, shield buffer. Not even joking. Also history: every time someone tries that, someone else tries to make a “think of the newbies” mechanic, someone else is going to think of how to exploit it and do it on many many toons. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/174 "2018-01-26T19:05:24Z")
> [@Coolkiller\_Ghost](#): > > I do believe that CODE is more responsible for a decline in new players as they just gank anybody that is semi afk or mining K Except that CCP proved otherwise 😃 ain’t it fun ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/175 "2018-01-27T02:30:32Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > smacking them silly and taking their poco empire off them again should net you the answer to that. Please, someone attempt this it would be great for content. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/176 "2018-01-27T02:35:33Z")
Well eve uni _did it_ with a bunch of derpy newbros and made a _fecking_ laughing stock of them, then spent the rest of the day in amarr local _giving_ those pocos to anyone that asked for one. ---
**Author:** ![Zamjo\_Enaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zamjo_enaka/32/243341_2.png) [@Zamjo\_Enaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zamjo_Enaka)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/177 "2018-02-09T18:55:04Z")
Just read the CSM12 minutes. How discouraging! This very topic is inferred then discussed briefly. Basically, the minutes state CCP is more concerned about the _perception_ of addressing P I R A T’s glaring botting then actually taking action. WOW, guess I shouldn’t be stunned, but I cannot help but be. Many of the above appear to be correct that CCP will just look the other way =( ---
**Author:** ![Devon\_Stone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/devon_stone/32/385010_2.png) [@Devon\_Stone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Devon_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/178 "2018-02-10T00:00:01Z")
> [@Zamjo\_Enaka](#): > > f the finished wars, unfortunately, preyed on the newer/weak player base. I don’t have the time to pour through all 16,658 finished wars. But, suffice it to say, this entire corp/alliance was built just to grief. > > -13.17 TRILLION ISK has been destroyed by this alliance. Again, most of it newer player loss. Yep, few friends join, start playing, make corp, get wardec’d, they don’t really know how to play, quit. Not your paycheck, so screw it. Don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Coralas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coralas/32/11762_2.png) [@Coralas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coralas)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/179 "2018-02-10T00:27:37Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > For all the wars they have little to no kills, they have wars wheRe they get billions > > Plus war contracts (I. E. Charging 500m to do whatever for a week) Its way too much money to be explained away by a dozen 500s Which is why the bots are back in omist. ---
**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/180 "2018-02-10T08:07:42Z")
> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#): > > Well eve uni _did it_ with a bunch of derpy newbros and made a _fecking_ laughing stock of them, then spent the rest of the day in amarr local _giving_ those pocos to anyone that asked for one. Never heard about that happening, but if thats true, thats utterly hilarious, I guess even a botting empire of Blingy T3 spammers can get their ■■■■ handed to them by some newbies. ---
**Author:** ![Kaeden\_3142](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaeden_3142/32/378138_2.png) [@Kaeden\_3142](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaeden_3142)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751/181 "2018-02-10T08:41:00Z")
It’s too late the damage is done with war decs all in the name of getting easy kills in hisec. I’m just surprised that CCP would have a mechanic which decimates their player base. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/p-i-r-a-t-will-have-to-be-shut-down/52751.md?page=10)