# PA/CCP Wants You to Keep Smoking **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 22, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470 "2020-12-22T18:13:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/41 "2020-12-24T16:59:01Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Arena’s draw those small play makers into an isolated space where they can not cause a chain reaction and instead that blip dies out in a small area secluded from everything else like a tree falling in a forest with no one around, its pretty sad. Is there any evidence that the players who play in arenas … … were actually roaming, looking for fights? It does not seem obvious to me that Arena players would want to seek fights in an open world. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/42 "2020-12-24T18:28:49Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > Arena’s draw those small play makers into an isolated space where they can not cause a chain reaction Why would they want to do that? Maybe they dont? If you would choose arena, you would want particular experience to take place. There it is for you. Dont deprive others or yourself of it. Thats my position. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/44 "2020-12-24T20:48:51Z")
Thanks! Now please explain why you all are doing this now … … and how it contradicts my idea that you actually don’t give a ■■■■ about lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/45 "2020-12-24T20:57:54Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Now please explain why you all are doing this now … I mean its pretty hard to pass up that 250k sp reward when your char only gets 150k from a skill injector. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > … and how it contradicts my idea that you actually don’t give a ■■■■ about lowsec. Making assumptions is part of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/46 "2020-12-24T21:10:45Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > bringing solo back I thought you are from a chain reaction channel. You know, getting your toes dipped in a pool full of sharks and all of that. The fact you were roaming solo, now its a bit better to get into the fights when you want, isnt it? And I thought I am the whining queen on forums. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/48 "2020-12-24T21:14:38Z")
But you whine about feature you are using. And nobody forced you? ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/49 "2020-12-24T21:18:57Z")
Health of the game \> personal growth. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/50 "2020-12-24T21:20:36Z")
I think CCP tricked you. They bribed you with SP and stuff. Exactly like they do to everyone else these days. First the free dose, then they come back for more with cash. Eventually even when flogged they come for more. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/51 "2020-12-24T21:31:21Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > I mean its pretty hard to pass up that 250k sp reward when your char only gets 150k from a skill injector. No. It isn’t. For some reason it’s hard for _you_. Which brings me back to my question. Why do you run arenas now instead of staying in your lowsec home system and roaming? Because lowsec is now empty, or because going to the arena is faster and easier? ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/52 "2020-12-24T21:34:26Z")
Arena is dead boring (not becuase the players and pvp isn’t challenging but becuase the meta is stale) but good rewards so its like pve almost. Low sec is where I had some of the best fights of my life ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/54 "2020-12-24T22:08:35Z")
Low sec was always pretty empty as far as I can remember. Comparing to high sec of course. Systems with one or two people inside them, some empty for hours. You could see some lone person trying to find a fight sometimes. Those arenas are pretty much an experiment that CCP conducted, because why not? They can always remove it, if something goes wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/56 "2020-12-24T22:16:57Z")
> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#): > > I have given CCP tons of info on how to make the game better As all of us. 😄 Just maybe not the way we see it. We didnt even had to say anything, it was enough we played the game. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/57 "2020-12-24T22:47:08Z")
CCP: Do something boring for SP Me: No _alternate Universe_ CCP: Seed 50 systems with Mobile Depots that say _WELCOME TO (Name of neighbouring sytem)_ and gain Fibonacci SP per drop, starting at 1 pt. Me: Yes ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Bahamut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_bahamut/32/411846_2.png) [@ISD\_Bahamut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Bahamut)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/58 "2020-12-25T12:03:22Z")
Removed a post as it was inappropriate and leaned towards a personal attack - please ensure you are civil to one another! Happy Holidays! o7 ISD Bahamut > 1.Specifically restricted conduct. > > The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. > > In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: > > ``` > Trolling > Flaming > Ranting > Personal Attacks > Harassment > Doxxing > Racism & Discrimination > Hate Speech > Sexism > Spamming > Bumping > Off-Topic Posting > Pyramid Quoting > Rumor Mongering > New Player Bashing > Impersonation > Advertising > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pa-ccp-wants-you-to-keep-smoking/286470/59 "2021-03-25T12:03:49Z")
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