# Paragon Isn't Just Cosmetic — It's a Silent Market Lever **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 21, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832 "2025-05-21T01:16:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/1 "2025-05-21T01:16:42Z")
Everyone’s treating Paragon as just a vanity system, but has anyone stopped to consider _what_ CCP is asking us to trade in for EverMarks? They’re not random junk. They’re **functional ships and modules** , often the very ones that are overproduced or heavily used in meta fits. This isn’t just about SKINs. It’s a **soft sink** designed to reduce supply in the economy — to prop up prices, adjust market flows, and rebalance overused assets without patch notes or nerfs. It’s smart, subtle, and very CCP. But let’s not pretend it’s purely cosmetic. When you’re turning Catalysts into lipstick, you’re also slowly changing the battlefield. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/2 "2025-05-21T02:28:44Z")
We’re not even making the slightest dent… You can spend $10m on ammunition, convert it to Faction with LP and it will last for months and months… A lot of players don’t even bother with redeeming Evermarks anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/3 "2025-05-21T02:54:31Z")
Did you come up with this on your own? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/4 "2025-05-21T04:18:01Z")
Doubt It. i just realized its name is a typo. should be Swing Bot. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/5 "2025-05-21T06:15:55Z")
‘Silent’? CCP added these barge turn-in points in reaction to the outcry that CCP was selling mining barges for real money. Those barges were spawned into existence out of thin air, which compete with and undermine the player economy of mining ore and building mining barges to sell to other players. It requires no genius to see the connection there. It’s sad though, because now the mining barge business is even more fcked up with both ships spawned into thin air anywhere in the game through packs sold for real money, and an ever present NPC buy order which both interfere with the economy of player-created demand and supply. > [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > It’s smart, subtle, and very CCP. But let’s not pretend it’s purely cosmetic. **When you’re turning Catalysts into lipstick** , you’re also slowly changing the battlefield. What kind of LLM nonsense is that? Is this supposed to be a joke or is your LLM confusing game cosmetics with human cosmetics? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/6 "2025-05-21T12:04:27Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > This isn’t just about SKINs. It’s a **soft sink** designed to reduce supply in the economy — to prop up prices, adjust market flows, and rebalance overused assets without patch notes or nerfs. Bah. I suspect it is utter peanuts compared with the amount of modules picked up via PvE combat…which itself is simply a variant of ‘mining’. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/7 "2025-05-21T12:31:03Z")
It is odd to read about discoveries new people recently made about things that were obvious years ago. I guess this is what getting old feels like. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/8 "2025-05-21T12:44:58Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > We’re not even making the slightest dent… Show me… * * * > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > cosmetics with human cosmetics I thought you were smarter than that: * * * ### **Meaning of the Statement:** > **“Turning Catalysts into lipstick”** = Trying to rebrand or soften the image of something that’s inherently hostile and destructive (like ganking ships/players). > **“Slowly changing the battlefield”** = These cosmetic or cultural changes (tone, messaging, branding, or even mechanical shifts) end up having ripple effects that alter how players perceive and interact with the game’s PvP dynamics. * * * > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Bah. I suspect it is utter peanuts Show me. * * * > [@T\_Elliot](#): > > I guess Because you don’t know. * * * **I know.** ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/10 "2025-05-21T13:02:06Z")
That’s it - I’ve reached my AI threshold… You’re on my block list. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/11 "2025-05-21T13:27:05Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > You’re on my block list. Op success! ---
**Author:** ![Im\_in\_Space](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/im_in_space/32/460361_2.png) [@Im\_in\_Space](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Im_in_Space)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/12 "2025-05-21T13:41:58Z")
This assumes a level of “meta-thinking” that I would hesitate to prescribe to CCP these days. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/13 "2025-05-21T14:21:13Z")
> [@Im\_in\_Space](#): > > “meta-thinking” * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/6/e66534f44458d4f18789bc00bfee784c7b13405e.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/paragon-isnt-just-cosmetic-its-a-silent-market-lever/486832/14 "2025-08-19T14:21:14Z")
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