# Past 50 mil SP you're not training anymore, you're paying an addiction tax **URL:** \ **Category:** My EVE\ **Created:** [August 25, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044 "2026-08-25T13:02:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/22 "2026-08-29T19:30:41Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Some Krakens have spent over $1m in game, yes, over 1 million $$'s on a gatcha game just to get and level to the max every new Legendary/Mythical that is released. Yeah that’s right. However that is also right for EVE and 2648 dollars is next to nothing. It just barely necessitates a special treatment by the FC sales team. That starts well beyond 2000$. 2000$ just gets you the 80.000 PLEX package that you can get on self checkout via paypal if you follow the link. But once you plan to invest 5k upwards, then they want to roll out the red carpet, massage your back and have you enjoy some food while the plexsales-Team goes the extra mile you make sure your dream comes true. > **[Purchasing PLEX through the EVE Online Store or from Third Party Resellers](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203523692-Purchasing-PLEX-through-the-EVE-Online-Store-or-from-Third-Party-Resellers)** > > PLEX are quite versatile items. They can be used to: > Purchase or gift items in the New Eden Store, such as: > Game Time > Multi Character Training Certificates > SKINs and apparel for a character > > > Sell ... EDIT: OMG…i just saw it in the screenshots… @One_Ugly_Cat seems to have invested the 2648$ in 20k PLEX packages instead of getting the 80k PLEX package for 2000$? Now i am gonna cry… 💸 😭 ---
**Author:** ![One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/one_ugly_cat/32/509848_2.png) [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/One_Ugly_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/23 "2026-08-29T20:50:41Z")
BUMP! ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/24 "2026-08-29T22:05:52Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > Don’t cry, sweet prins. I intend to throw thousands of dollars at this to win at eve. 🤣 Well at least it is good for FC and the server hamsters and finally for us all if you reject to receive the full discount… ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/25 "2026-08-29T22:54:07Z")
Only 108mil? That isn’t a lot of SP, there will still be a lot you can’t do ---
**Author:** ![Drx\_Drx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drx_drx/32/383107_2.png) [@Drx\_Drx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drx_Drx)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/26 "2026-08-30T06:45:15Z")
There should be a whale achievement ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Deviluke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_deviluke/32/498807_2.png) [@Nana\_Deviluke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Deviluke)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/27 "2026-08-30T06:53:39Z")
You are so bad in trading. Instead of getting ~ x3 SP for the same price… oh those new players. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/28 "2026-08-30T06:54:24Z")
> [@Drx\_Drx](#): > > whale achievement Then there also should be a `whale hunter` achievement as well. 🤔 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Malcoy\_Tweedhouse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcoy_tweedhouse/32/515656_2.png) [@Malcoy\_Tweedhouse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malcoy_Tweedhouse)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/29 "2026-08-30T13:32:37Z")
All I know, I would buy me a used car with the $2600 because I am still pumping a bike 12 miles to work each day. Winter is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/30 "2026-08-30T18:40:06Z")
Realistically a good pilot only needs about 100 million to fill out a few ships with all level 5 skills behind him. If you do any more than that you are spending extreme amounts of time to get what amounts to almost nothing. Ganker’s only need 5 million or maybe 10 million if they want to Branch out to different ships. All Omega accounts are near free because of this. I have combat mains at 100+m. Indi toons at 20m. Ganker’s at 10m. The rest at 5m. Veterans only train new skills when new ships come out because that’s how CCP sells us stuff. In reality they should just do bigger discounts on SP for high skill point characters from the store but what the f\*\*\* ever ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/31 "2026-08-30T19:06:51Z")
Yes, alpha clone can be greatly improved expanding basic stuff to level 5, capping T2 ships, capping ship size to medium and selling ship category license. I understand alpha clone is working as intended, I’m improving it from infinite trial to limited functional gameplay for people like me that are not … (no good word to use here without being offensive) and are just fine with the current capabilities. Paying a ship category license for 30 days for like $5 is way better than paying a lot of money to train crap I don’t need. Heads up, dollar conversion is a thing before your brain only thinks about the $10 difference. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/32 "2026-08-30T19:11:41Z")
You are paying for extra but its not an addiction. There is nothing wrong with supporting CCP either when you like what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/33 "2026-08-30T19:12:14Z")
> [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](#): > > ship category license Isn’t that what `expert systems` already are? 🤔 > **[Expert Systems - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Expert_Systems)** ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/34 "2026-08-30T19:21:03Z")
Yeah, I was going to fix it. Beta clone is a better approach, for a future EVE. Right now it will lead to a loss of money. Note to self: do not post when hungry. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/35 "2026-08-30T19:34:33Z")
Did the entire opening post and title just change? Also how is extracting a 100+ million SP main to turn it into a 50M character efficient? What a waste of SP to extract that stuff again. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/36 "2026-08-30T19:41:58Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > waste of SP to extract If you are referring to SP loss isn’t that only when you inject SP and even then depends on the current SP amount of the character? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/37 "2026-08-30T19:51:38Z")
They extracted a lot of SP that they injected at severely diminished rates, and got back far less than they put in. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/38 "2026-08-30T19:56:52Z")
Oh I see, then yeah that was a big load of waste for no valid reason. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/39 "2026-08-30T19:59:03Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > Skill injector costs scale with brutal diminishing returns once a character passes roughly fifty million skill points. Between fifty and eighty million, you’re paying dramatically more for less and less value. I had already overshot to one hundred ten million on my main character, so I started extracting skill points back down, live, while figuring this out. What I have noticed, from training up multiple chars, is that the single biggest rapid increase in abilities comes around 23-28 million SP, with another smaller peak around 40-45 million SP which is usually when I’ve trained up for T3 ships. But it also depends what you skill for. I fly mainly cruisers, I have most of them, so I’m only now ( at 52m SP for Gloria ) training up for battleship level turrets…and only now training up for my first Precursor ship, though I have chars with 24m SP who can fly Leshaks, Drekavacs, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/40 "2026-08-30T19:59:45Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Did the entire opening post and title just change? > > Also how is extracting a 100+ million SP main to turn it into a 50M character efficient? What a waste of SP to extract that stuff again. Sure did. And as the topic now changed completely, i’m out. Makes the whole discussion up and until this point worthless and was ultimately then also a waste of my time. Should be against the forums rules also. This is the hardest form of changing a topic during the discussion. I’m considering to flag it for review. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/41 "2026-08-30T20:07:04Z")
lol yeah, I’m kinda surprised. Anyway, now I’m fed I can think properly, expert systems are superior in all forms. Maybe a change in price for people that only want to play casually, but not enough to be better than omega… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044.md?page=3)