# Past 50 mil SP you're not training anymore, you're paying an addiction tax **URL:** \ **Category:** My EVE\ **Created:** [August 25, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044 "2026-08-25T13:02:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/62 "2026-08-31T12:27:05Z")
Same, i have almost 120 mil sp, a jack of all trades so if i decide to do something other than missions i can. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/63 "2026-08-31T16:00:24Z")
We used to have proper trolls and now we have whatever this is. ---
**Author:** ![Afriles\_Jasmone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/afriles_jasmone/32/505494_2.png) [@Afriles\_Jasmone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Afriles_Jasmone)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/64 "2026-08-31T16:31:05Z")
Is that a gauntlet I see on the ground? šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/65 "2026-08-31T17:00:59Z")
I still fail to get the premise of this thread and why the OP portraits his/her scenario to be an example for everyone. It is a very specific example of a playstyle that just fits to him/her and certainly not to me. So i wonder why and what exactly anyone has to learn from this example? Nothing of it applies to most of the players. They donā€™t want to spend that kind of RL money, usually have a main character that they need to train well over 50m SP and have the other characters usually lower than 50m SP and in a support role for industrial, research or market shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/66 "2026-08-31T17:15:49Z")
> [@Power\_Armor](#): > > Now i am gonna cryā€¦ šŸ’ø šŸ˜­ Everyone who is not crying right now has been watching this show on the sidelines. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Princess needs a box of tissues. šŸ¤£ > [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > People are calling this wasteful A good cry is never wasteful. ---
**Author:** ![One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/one_ugly_cat/32/509848_2.png) [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/One_Ugly_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/67 "2026-08-31T18:09:13Z")
![Schermafbeelding 2026-09-16 083658](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/8/b68c7d82c8a3bc5343aafb910da7cbdca91cde9d.png) ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/68 "2026-08-31T18:10:20Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > whatever this is. Someone mistook EVE forums for Instagram. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/69 "2026-08-31T18:26:55Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > What people should learn is not to copy my exact playstyle Reading some the replies in this thread, i dont think you have to worry about that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/70 "2026-08-31T18:58:13Z")
Maybe OP will enter the EVE vocabulary: > `impulse buyer wallet warrior capsuleer:` Oh man Iā€™ve wasted my skills by extracting them from my main and spending on the wrong alt. All that SP got completely wasted on a trade alt. > > `friend capsuleer:` Bro you mean youā€™ve pulled a _ **One Ugly Cat** _ on your skillpoints? > > `impulse buyer wallet warrior capsuleer:` Yeah dude, what a bummer. > > `friend capsuleer:` Condolences bro. > > `impulse buyer wallet warrior capsuleer:` Thanks, I appreciate it. > > `friend capsuleer:` Letā€™s blow up some miners or haulers, thatā€™ll cheer you up. > > `impulse buyer wallet warrior capsuleer:` Yeah, letā€™s do that. šŸ¤” šŸ˜Š :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/71 "2026-08-31T20:36:54Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > What people should learn is not to copy my exact playstyle, itā€™s the underlying mechanic I hit, which applies no matter how you play. Past 50m SP, every character, yours included, starts costing disproportionately more time or ISK for smaller and smaller gains. No, that reasoning only applies to skill injecting your character. Everyone else faces no diminishing returns on their skill training beyond 50M SP and just continues training at the same rate as before. ---
**Author:** ![One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/one_ugly_cat/32/509848_2.png) [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/One_Ugly_Cat)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/72 "2026-09-01T11:43:15Z")
# ![Schermafbeelding 2026-09-16 083658](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/8/b68c7d82c8a3bc5343aafb910da7cbdca91cde9d.png) ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/73 "2026-09-01T11:47:44Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > What do you think? I think youā€™re mental. Itā€™s not like you canā€™t play the game while training skills, thereā€™s plenty for low skilled chars to do. My main has over 300M SP, and I havenā€™t run out of things I want to train. The fun of this game is the pace, you seem to want to shortcut the fun to achieve some arbitrary goal, I think thatā€™s delulu. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/74 "2026-09-01T12:58:12Z")
I think itā€™s great that FCCP offers players the option to buy SP so these spenders can sponsor this game we all like playing. I also think 50M SP is rather low for a well-rounded character, it is about the value my focused alts are at. Youā€™ll likely want to stay around and keep playing to earn more SP the regular way to fly more ships, if you have the patience to do so. But given how quick you injected and extracted your character you seem to prefer rapid spending of money over patience, so I wonder if youā€™re still playing this game next year or have found something new by then to spend money on. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/75 "2026-09-01T14:38:33Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > But given how quick you injected and extracted your character you seem to prefer rapid spending of money over patience, It is not even that; this is a performance. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/76 "2026-09-01T15:56:30Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > # **The 2000 dollar shortcut** > > ![Schermafbeelding 2026-09-01 114934 new](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/4/6/f46191d5728217d1397bd2d7f6a4a703f568d9b0.jpeg) > > You walk into New Eden with nothing, no ship worth flying, no skills worth mentioning, and a business model designed to make you feel that gap immediately. Most people respond by grinding, quietly, for years. I want to make the case for a different first move. > > 95% of all people with a low to medium income will probably never pay 2000 dollar for a game up front. What if you would know that your investment gets you: > [ā€¦] > I return to this game as a veteran but I claim that while this game is more than 20 years old and things have changed somewhat you can with around 2000 dollar and a hard 50M SP barrier skip the BS from it and get straight to the gameplay you want even as a rookie. > > What do you think? I think EVE is not the usual hit and run game. It is a long term investment in the learning curve, buildup of strategies, social contacts and everything else as well. You will hit your 2000$ easily if you play EVE for 20 years and will already have usable characters in almost every way after the first if not the second year. In your case you would have to pay 2000$ for the instant SP and then on top another 2000$ for the 20 years of playtime. It just makes no sense at all, because you wouldnā€™t invest the 2000$ if you were not sure that you play the game for a very long time, in which you achieve the same for free as part of your journey. So alone for economic reasons, it would choose to pay 2000$ for 20 years and not 4000$ for 20 years. Also if you are a multiboxer it makes even far less senseā€¦you have to economically spread and train all your accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/77 "2026-09-01T16:04:49Z")
I have not used a skill injector to date. Have bought and sold same. Made a tidy profit from them. But on a whole. The only skills I do inject are the ones that FC provides on the Tuesdays and if I decide to grind out those daily goals. Fine. But generally I hold onto the SP. Use it more strategically. That is just me. However, While I understand the sentiment of pay to progress. Eve has always been a marathon. Not a sprint. But FC is always happy to take money if a player has talked themselves into ā€˜I want to pay money, instead of timeā€™. The reality is that there is a diminishing returns on constantly just injecting SP. Thinking you are cutting the time on skilling into something. As you are a returning vet. You could skill into a T2 Or even a T3 ship in short order. Get into it and be able to fly with some remembered competence. A new player that follows your advice is going to find out in short order that because you can skill into a T2 ship. Does not follow that the new player could fly that T2 ship with any real competence. In fact most here have either read or have heard of a new player Skilling into a T2 or higher ship. Took it out for a run around and was made a pretty fireball in the sky. Rage/quit posts are made of these things. You may get away with accelerating you Skills, but for a new player. that is asking for something unfortunate to happen and a rage/quit post all at the same time. Which brings up the more obvious question in all of this. If you are impatient to be flying and having the skills to fly a T2 and above ships. Why not just use your old character? Evidently you had the needed skill set to do all this anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/79 "2026-09-02T04:03:34Z")
All I know is after hitting 50m SP on each of my alts Iā€™m extracting any regular SP gains to PLEX them (which should cover ~90% of the annual cost). Daily/weekly/monthly bonuses (~650k SP/month) will be applied to new skills such that each should still increase by about 7-8m SP per year. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/80 "2026-09-02T05:27:04Z")
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/82 "2026-09-02T10:36:35Z")
Ok soā€¦? What was your point in all this. Repeating ad nauseum doesnt help you ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/83 "2026-09-02T10:44:42Z")
> [@One\_Ugly\_Cat](#): > > When they are all on one account I intend to **turn the skill queue off entirely.** Of all the bad wasteful ideas you wish to inspire newbies with in this thread this may be the worst. This entire thread feels made by a person who offloaded their critical thinking skills to AI.; if you didnā€™t know better the novel ideas sound smart and diminishing returns above 50M SP certainly are a thing in one specific context, but is somehow hallucinated to apply to other cases too. You are of course free to do so, but I hope any impressable newbies reading the thread have enough critical thinking skills of their own to avoid these examples. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044.md?page=5)