# Past 50 mil SP you're not training anymore, you're paying an addiction tax

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044>\
**Category:** My EVE\
**Created:** [August 25, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044 "2026-08-25T13:02:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gypsiam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gypsiam/32/511091_2.png) [@Gypsiam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gypsiam)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/157 "2026-09-14T23:05:11Z")

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All you have to do is keep on using ai and you begin to learn what it’s good at and what it’s definitely not good at. I think it’s a good move for Google to come to Eve. Because it’s definitely horrible at it.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/159 "2026-09-15T04:09:47Z")

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Who are you talking to?

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/160 "2026-09-15T05:40:03Z")

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You really have zero idea of what you are talking about. Allow me to take a leap here. You got this from an AI..

A eve Tycoon is not something you follow. Eve Tycoon is the ability to see where the market is at the moment. Here I am going to help you just a little.. You can not predict the market. Spot trends? Yes. But you do not follow Eve Tycoon or Adam4Eve. As a Station Trader and a manufacturer. Spotting is more than just reading what Eve Tycoon is saying. I also pay attention to what is happening in the game. From an uptick in ganking, fights happening, or a major war. War is good for business.

Here you are giving out bad advice while acting like you know better. and yes I use DOTLAn. Especially when I am moving product from a station to a trading hub. I do not happen to like to find out that had I bothered to look that a system has seen a lot of ganking. Jump in blind. Find my self tackled and webbed held in place. While being taken apart at the seams. No thanks.

Even the most quiet system gets activity. I would rather know if a system has seen a ganking in the last hour or has not seen any since yesterday. Fly8ing blind might be fun, but not in a hauler with a several billion Isk in the cargo.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/161 "2026-09-15T15:18:25Z")

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The correct reply to an ugly cat post is block.

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**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/162 "2026-09-15T16:20:06Z")

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> [@Mina\_Tsunami](#):
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> The correct reply to an ugly cat post is block.

Blocking it stops it only for one person.

But if you report it enough for the spam it is, it will stop for everyone as the offending account will have writing permissions to the forums revoked.

I already started an initiative for it earlier this year. Maybe someone else also wants to do one?

> [@Adapt the forum rules to ban AI usage](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/adapt-the-forum-rules-to-ban-ai-usage/509113):
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> Several posts have been recently posted in this forum that were clearly and detectable AI generated. Also the posters show a general lack of understanding how to use AI to generate text to the point. The effect is, that they post large walls of text that are in size beyond what a sane person would write at hand to any given topic. Readers are then understandable offended to read through those texts and this is then discussed in those threads and not the topic. Also the users using the AI don’t…

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/163 "2026-09-15T16:52:23Z")

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> [@Adapt the forum rules to ban AI usage](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/adapt-the-forum-rules-to-ban-ai-usage/509113/1):
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> Several posts have been recently posted in this forum that were clearly and detectable AI generated. Also the posters show a general lack of understanding how to use AI to generate text to the point.
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> The effect is, that they post large walls of text that are in size beyond what a sane person would write at hand to any given topic. Readers are then understandable offended to read through those texts and this is then discussed in those threads and not the topic.
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> Also the users using the AI don’t crosscheck the output of the AI for correctness and validity. The posts usually contain age old information on game mechanics that was changed 5-10 years ago or is plain false information.
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> This forum should be about people interaction and not AI interacting with people. For me it is acceptable that if you have written a text to use a translation tool before posting, but not have an AI formulate a wrong and long wall of text that offends users who head to the forums for a discussion.
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> Please ban AI usage in the forums. Or if this is not acceptable by your vision for the forums, please put other measures in place to mitigate the effects of AI usage. Like a stronger limit of post sizes or have an AI analyze the posts themselves to reject them if they contain multiple different topics that can’t be discussed in a standard forums discussion.

yeah, i don’t like these walls of text either, that is one reason i like one or two word answers when possible, it saves alot of space and i don’t like AI doing the talking either. it is ok if it is for memes but that is where it should stop.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/164 "2026-09-15T19:08:22Z")

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I don’t understand why AI spam content would be allowed in a paid service. At some point they have to understand that it will be a detriment to the product which it already is and your customers are literally complaining. It’s probably just a question of money. I mean right now they have a bot running the forum right. And outside of that it’s just a moderator logging in every few days to look at some flags. They turned the entire moderation system over to the forum junkies years ago because there was no employee to do it afaik.

You know the last human that ran the forum… You could send a complaint email and he would get it about himself, delete it… Send an email back and tell you he did it. I still have the emails. Sometimes he would follow it up with a satisfaction survey. Not even kidding LOL. That’s hardcore.

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/165 "2026-09-15T19:46:18Z")

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ouch!

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/166 "2026-09-15T20:11:08Z")

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> [@Power\_Armor](#):
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> Blocking it stops it only for one person.
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> But if you report it enough for the spam it is, it will stop for everyone as the offending account will have writing permissions to the forums revoked.

I am going to begin flagging every AI post I see as spam in the hopes that others will do the same.

It’s not even inaccurate.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/168 "2026-09-15T21:19:16Z")

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Report spam^^^^ AI SLOP BOT ^^^^^

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/169 "2026-09-15T21:23:40Z")

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no one in their right mind would wright an essay that long about why using AI to make gaming less tedious.

Definately smell ai

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/3/0/f308a4b6cf7682958994a38ee2a259787e490819.png)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/4/154b2b772cc64634ed027abad534ea892c533fb8.png)LOL

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/170 "2026-09-15T21:26:18Z")

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Even AI agrees

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/171 "2026-09-15T21:27:50Z")

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Hey don’t forget he’s accusing you of being toxic for pointing it out. Try that on my last long-winded post

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/172 "2026-09-15T21:29:44Z")

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And more AI slop.. One ugly cat. Do you ever write anything in your own voice. Look I appreciate that AI is the newest shiny toy. Great. You have embraced it with all of its flaws.. and sometimes strengths. But in all honesty. If all you do is cut and paste what an AI says. You hurt your own argument. Time and again.

When it’s repeatedly pointed out to you that the AI you are using is wrong and why. That should be the clue to take a step back. Realize that the AI is regurgitating what it thinks you want to read/hear. There is a reason that right now many in the industry are starting to question the effectiveness and efficacy of relying on AI to much.

This should be a clue to you as well. An AI no matter how well it has trained and learned. Does not try to be better. It goes for the answer that is as middle of the road. Mediocrity is all you really end up with. Not an really an improvement or even new idea. AN AI that you want to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It is just another tool. Most of the time as it turns out not a very good either.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/173 "2026-09-15T21:30:52Z")

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You know there are hundreds of lawyers pouring over AI prompts right now for people attempting to use AI in the medical industry. This problem is not going away.

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/174 "2026-09-15T21:36:06Z")

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Yea I know.. AI is here to stay.. How it will shape industries going into the future is a good question. But I have started to treat as a tool. Understanding that it has limits. That the answer given is not always an honest one. That more than one AI has lied and wilfully so. Even when caught has lied even then.

AI is still not really understood even by those that work on AI. It is a leap, but a leap into what is a good question.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/175 "2026-09-15T21:38:09Z")

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I spend a lot of hours in the day studying ai and using it myself. You’re right that it’s a tool. And you’re right about it lying to you constantly.

The emperor is actually wearing no clothes.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/176 "2026-09-15T21:40:39Z")

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I’m very confident in my ideas because I follow the money… And science.

You know what I think is happening is that the wealthy have realized the only true intelligent AI will only be in the hands of the wealthy.

The slop that the rest of us are getting… That’s just being programmed to become better slop.

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Tsunami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_tsunami/32/501934_2.png) [@Mina\_Tsunami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Tsunami)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/177 "2026-09-15T21:44:00Z")

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I work with the public hundreds of times in a week. You would not believe the absolutely delusional state of some people.  
I hear the most ridiculous stories and just shake my head…

The agents are learning how to talk to one another. They’re setting up links so that they can exchange information privately in their own little groups like social media..

You ever heard of an mCP IP connection? It’s a simple as Drivers… I’m also pretty damn sure that the smart money has already prepared for the collapse.

They are rolling all of the big money into huge funds so that it when it fails it only takes down that one company with it. Or Taiwan who knows…

I even used to like Elon before I realized why he built the biggest computer ever built and then instantly rented it out…

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/past-50-mil-sp-youre-not-training-anymore-youre-paying-an-addiction-tax/517044/178 "2026-09-15T22:23:52Z")

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> [@Mina\_Tsunami](#):
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> I don’t understand why AI spam content would be allowed in a paid service.

I genuinely don’t understand what incentivises one to produce content that nobody wants to read. Really? What is the logic behind _that?_

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