# PD Control-Samples that need to be reviewed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 14, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286 "2017-07-14T11:38:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Selphentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selphentine/32/221796_2.png) [@Selphentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selphentine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/1 "2017-07-14T11:38:29Z")
As the title said - before we start a whole bunch of “wtf is this” threads, id say we collect some samples we think we need to be reviewed. Please try not to report a whole bunch of samples that confuse you, but rather those you can see _plainly wrong_. Post the sample ID (Right bottom corner after submitting) and, if you want, a screenshot. Also reason what is wrong. Maybe we can get a central “collecting” thread. Ill start: 200077055 Same object is twice in the sample, also folds perfectly. Only one of them is marked. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/2 "2017-07-14T14:23:06Z")
The whole point of PD is that we reach a consensus through individual effort. Flagging samples as “wrong” defeats the purpose of the exercise. If enough people mark a sample “correctly” then the system’s definition of correct for that sample will shift to the consensus. That’s why you get rewards regardless of if you’re correct or not. ---
**Author:** ![Moksa\_Elodie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moksa_elodie/32/4272_2.png) [@Moksa\_Elodie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moksa_Elodie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/3 "2017-07-14T14:54:29Z")
There are 2 types of sample, ones which have a consensus and ones which require a consensus. The ones which require a consensus do not affect your accuracy score. The one which have a consensus already affect your accuracy score and there are many of these which are either blatantly wrong or dubiously wrong. The latter is what this forum post is regarding, not the samples which are still requiring consensus. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/4 "2017-07-14T15:22:55Z")
We are talking about the control samples, where the designers know the answer but want to test and assess us, whether we are actually able to find transits. Those which modify the accuracy. This has nothing to do with consensus. ---
**Author:** ![Selphentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selphentine/32/221796_2.png) [@Selphentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selphentine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/5 "2017-07-14T16:09:03Z")
and some of them are wrong. Im not talking about _very difficult_ ones, but sometimes, you got the “Youre joking, right?” feeling. And i think we should collect them so they get reviewed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![oiukhp\_Muvila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oiukhp_muvila/32/4530_2.png) [@oiukhp\_Muvila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oiukhp_Muvila)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/6 "2017-07-14T16:10:03Z")
> [@Selphentine](#): > > and some of them are wrong. Im not talking about _very difficult_ ones, but sometimes, you got the “Youre joking, right?” feeling. And i think we should collect them so they get reviewed 🙂 Yeah, you are totally missing the point of the exercise. ---
**Author:** ![Selphentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selphentine/32/221796_2.png) [@Selphentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selphentine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/7 "2017-07-14T16:39:49Z")
What is so hard to understand that there _are_ wrong test-samples? Do it yourself a while, and youll see. ---
**Author:** ![oiukhp\_Muvila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oiukhp_muvila/32/4530_2.png) [@oiukhp\_Muvila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oiukhp_Muvila)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/8 "2017-07-14T17:49:30Z")
> [@Selphentine](#): > > What is so hard to understand that there _are_ wrong test-samples? Do it yourself a while, and youll see. I have, and the established process will sort them out. Posting things like you suggest can work against the purpose of the established group-effort system. Sometimes issues perceived within a sample can be with the observer themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Selphentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selphentine/32/221796_2.png) [@Selphentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selphentine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/9 "2017-07-14T18:08:52Z")
I think you dont quite understand how the system works 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Selphentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selphentine/32/221796_2.png) [@Selphentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selphentine)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/10 "2017-07-14T21:24:06Z")
Another one: 200077053. Also seems to miss one transit. ---
**Author:** ![Tvashnar\_Crendraven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tvashnar_crendraven/32/399991_2.png) [@Tvashnar\_Crendraven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tvashnar_Crendraven)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pd-control-samples-that-need-to-be-reviewed/10286/11 "2017-07-15T06:12:06Z")
The point of the exercise it to help train people to spot transits. The WTF curated samples do not in any way help us to understand why we are wrong, thus don’t help us to improve our results.