# Petition for return of Agent finder, or add functionality

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410>\
**Category:** Missions\
**Created:** [June 3, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410 "2018-06-03T20:16:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/21 "2018-06-06T00:02:22Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Homework still isn’t the teacher’s responsiblity.

Man, do you live in some parallel universe or what? What are all those meaningless remarks that you keep making all the time supposed to prove or be useful for? What’s this teacher and homework that you’re talking about? What does it have to do with the issue at hand?

Just in case you don’t know, making pointless analogies or remarks doesn’t make you look smarter or prove anything you may be trying to (poorly) say…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Then we’re not really hindered by it.

Who “we” and what “it”? Who is not really hindered by what?

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> They’re just not giving the newbs the benefit of the learning.

Man, you’re not making any sense at all. What learning are they not giving newbs the benefit of by doing what?

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> THUS your request is that the Agent Finder’s ability be restored.

Yes, that’s the only thing you’ve said so far that makes sense. Glad you finally got it.

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> The horrible piece of work that it was and needs to be fixed and upgraded. The tree needs to be grown from the roots first. START with the piece you really want.

Ahhh, now I see… So it is that you didn’t like the Agent Finder… Too bad you seem unable to articulate whatever it is that you didn’t like about it, just that _in your opinion_ it was a “horrible piece of work”…

So, just because you didn’t like it (for no reason that I can see), it’s a good thing that they removed it before a “better” alternative was ready to replace it, right? Well done, you’re starting to make so much more sense now. Congrats, keep trying, I really like your style…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Storyline agents. Who they are linked to. How many agents are actually tied to an area/faction/npc corp. Like the ship tree…

You’re not making any sense again. What are you talking about now and what does it have to do with the topic of this thread?

And I’ll ask you this again. You don’t use locator agents at all, do you? Do you even know what they’re for?

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**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/22 "2018-06-06T00:12:44Z")

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Are you one of those people that just like playing devils advocate?

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/23 "2018-06-06T00:13:52Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Ahhh, now I see… So it is that you didn’t like the Agent Finder… Too bad you seem unable to articulate whatever it is that you didn’t like about it, just that _in your opinion_ it was a “horrible piece of work”…

Oh I knew exactly how it works. But you don’t. I’m ancient. Older than my character time shows. I did my homework. I learned which agents connect to which storyline agents to get standings. I did it for 3 factions. But you’re not looking at the big picture. You’re so focused on your “I want my” that you haven’t seen how much you need still. Information that is so old it’s being forgotten again. Has happened before. Will happen again. Which is exactly why the agent finder was created once…

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> And I’ll ask you this again. You don’t use locator agents at all, do you? Do you even know what they’re for?

Please read thread title.

“Petition for return of Agent finder, or add functionality”

This isn’t about locator agents at all. I already have access to 8 in game.

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/24 "2018-06-06T00:15:54Z")

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> [@Eternal\_Montage](#):
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> Are you one of those people that just like playing devils advocate?

Well I do see someone spewing from the hip rather than being precise about what they really wanted. Sometimes it’s necessary but nobody else is picking up the mantle. We have a distinct hole in “The Agency” where their ability to find out how agents link is practically zero.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/25 "2018-06-06T00:41:02Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Oh I knew exactly how it works. But you don’t. I’m ancient. Older than my character time shows. I did my homework. I learned which agents connect to which storyline agents to get standings.

Ah, yes, I see… So you’re happily and proudly confirming that you’re unable to articulate what was wrong about the Agent Finder, nor any of your other “thoughts” for that matter… You can only make blanket statements and pointless analogies… But you’re right and I’m wrong… Because you’re ancient and you say so… Again, well done, great posts, congrats…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Please read thread title.
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> “Petition for return of Agent finder, or add functionality”
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> This isn’t about locator agents at all.

So you don’t even understand why the Agent Finder was so useful to find locator agents and why that’s one of the many reasons the Agent Finder shouldn’t have been removed? Oh man, I wish you had at least the ability to realise the image you’re giving of yourself, but obviously you don’t, so I’ll leave it at that…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Well I do see someone spewing from the hip rather than being precise about what they really wanted.

ROFLMAO. You think it’s _others_ who are not being precise? Have you read the posts at the beginning of the thread, the OP and mine in particular, explaining what _exactly_ is wanted and why, and then your own posts? Are you even able to do that?

🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/26 "2018-06-06T00:50:47Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> You can only make blanket statements and pointless analogies…

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Who “we” and what “it”? Who is not really hindered by what?

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Man, do you live in some parallel universe or what? What are all those meaningless remarks that you keep making all the time supposed to prove or be useful for? What’s this teacher and homework that you’re talking about? What does it have to do with the issue at hand?

When someone doesn’t take the time to learn from their own experience what purpose does a teacher have to give them knowledge they won’t use?

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> So you don’t even understand why the Agent Finder was so useful to find locator agents and why that’s one of the many reasons the Agent Finder shouldn’t have been removed? Oh man, I wish you had at least the ability to realise the image you’re giving of yourself, but obviously you don’t, so I’ll leave it at that…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> This isn’t about locator agents at all. I already have access to 8 in game.

![listen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/0/80c31128fb265edcccee9ff61e442822e2e23715.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/27 "2018-06-06T01:03:16Z")

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Your last reply says it all, really. The “this isn’t about locator agents because I already have access to 8”, in particular, is gold, but you made a good summary, congrats, I don’t have anything to add.

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/28 "2018-06-06T01:05:17Z")

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Two replies ago. 8 level 4 locator agents aren’t exactly chump work. But you didn’t listen and you’re still not.

It would be why you’re misquoting and changing the topic.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/29 "2018-06-06T01:12:58Z")

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You do know all you have to do is look at the corp info under the agents tab, right? Shows you right where each level of agent is and how many jumps away. I have no problem finding agents and I’ve ran missions for 137 different NPC corps…

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/30 "2018-06-06T01:51:22Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> You do know all you have to do is look at the corp info under the agents tab, right? Shows you right where each level of agent is and how many jumps away.

LOL. You do realise that’s the first thing @MinerArt said and I already replied to saying that’s a very particular use case you’re considering, completely ignoring many other use cases for which the Agent Finder was very useful and the corp info doesn’t work?

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/31 "2018-06-06T03:07:51Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> You do realise that’s the first thing @MinerArt said and I already replied to saying that’s a very particular use case you’re considering

Yes… very particular use case… finding agents… like the topic of the thread… wish you would actually be on topic.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/32 "2018-06-06T03:16:18Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Yes… very particular use case… finding agents… like the topic of the thread… wish you would actually be on topic.

ROFL. Did you really need to omit the relevant part of the post you quoted? How pathetic… I’m sorry for you because you don’t even realise you’re making such a fool of yourself, but you’re making me have good laughs here, so by all means keep going… 🤣

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/33 "2018-06-06T03:18:33Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> ROFL. Did you really need to omit the relevant part of the post you quoted?

You mean like you did? Because Listening is a skill I have I actually used?

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> How pathetic… I’m sorry for you because you don’t even realise you’re making such a fool of yourself

Comedy… when talking about the eve online universe… making a fool of yourself…

> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> Man, do you live in some parallel universe or what?

You’re much better at it.

Listen with the intent to understand please. I will not respond to you until you do.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/34 "2018-06-06T03:29:24Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> You mean like you did?

When have I omitted the relevant part of a post I was replying to? Now you’re outright lying…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Because Listening is a skill I have I actually used?

Yeah, indeed, and you keep proving it in each of your posts, LOL.

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Listen with the intent to understand please.

You realise just because you tell others to do what you’re not doing, it doesn’t mean you’re actually doing it and the others aren’t, right? Ah no, wait, that’s asking too much…

> [@MinerArt](#):
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> I will not respond to you until you do.

I really hope you keep responding no matter what because your responses are so much fun…

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**Author:** ![Bashar\_V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bashar_v/32/175231_2.png) [@Bashar\_V](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bashar_V)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/35 "2018-06-06T08:15:39Z")

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Second that.  
I don’t remember how Agent finder looked, but when i came back to EVE this time it took me some time just to figure out the agents actually were in the Agency. And it lacks filters, yes.

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**Author:** ![Molpadia\_Devaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molpadia_devaux/32/288155_2.png) [@Molpadia\_Devaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molpadia_Devaux)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/36 "2018-06-06T12:41:05Z")

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I for one, found the old agent finder _precise_, _functional_, _inclusive_, _extensive_ and _compact_. The transfer to the agency was in no way an upgrade. A bling, slow, resource hog with very limited functionality does little to serve those of us who used the old agent finder.  
If CCP wants the Agency to be the one stop shop for new players I am OK with that.  
What I am opposed to is removing something that many players found useful and giving them a major downgrade as a replacement. Especially after many major flaws and objections were pointed out during testing.  
The coding to keep both could not be that onerous.  
This same issue is now going on with the new Planetary Interaction interface in regards to the large, screen real estate hog the new display consumes. The new PI window adds more info, a plus, buts covers areas you work with making you minimize the window. Many players are asking for the **OPTION** to use the old compact window.  
That’s what I would like. The **OPTION** to use the old Agent Finder.

These “Eye Candy” additions that do little to improve the game but require better video performance seem only to be motivated by the new “Recommended” system.

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/37 "2018-06-06T20:27:23Z")

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> [@Molpadia\_Devaux](#):
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> I for one, found the old agent finder _precise_ , _functional_ , _inclusive_ , _extensive_ and _compact_ . The transfer to the agency was in no way an upgrade.

True. The agency was a horrible drop. I wish it had come with the entire tree set of which agents result in which storyline agents giving you a mission every 15 so you can actually use it to plan what you do. I also wish it would track when you were about to clear that storyline mission requirement so you could… ya know… plan.

It’s been missing that function forever though.

Thus the functionality that it was missing should be the base for the agency to be upgraded. Give us that tree like the ships have for agents. Like they’re planning for the activity tracker they’ve got in the works…

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Storyline agent A connects to mission level 1 agents (Z thru ZZ) and you have X missions left before they will offer you a level 1 storyline mission. The same storyline agent also has links to mission level 2, 3, 4 (and maybe 5) agents and keeps track of which ones you have done missions for.

Information that has been forced to be tracked by us forever. I sincerely hope that it is the upgrade we needed for so long in relation to the agent finder.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/38 "2018-06-06T20:31:56Z")

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No, if anything is coming back it damn well better be:

The Jukebox. ‘Miner Stories’ on repeat… omfg ASMR…

and/or

The IGB. [fukung.net](http://fukung.net) was waaaaaayyyyyyyy better than ship spinning.

… agent finder… pft.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/39 "2018-06-07T19:29:18Z")

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CCP needs to stop streamlining and overly applying eye-candy graphics to every single in-game app.

+1 for more precise and detailed info pertaining to finding Agents.

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**Author:** ![Magnus\_Witchspace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_witchspace/32/410729_2.png) [@Magnus\_Witchspace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Witchspace)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-return-of-agent-finder-or-add-functionality/80410/40 "2018-06-14T09:05:59Z")

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I appreciate that not many Eve players have basic IT skills, but Jesus… Download the SDE and manipulate it to your heart’s content.

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