# Petition for Transgender Corpses

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [October 13, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247 "2017-10-13T09:48:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Joe\_Monso](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joe_monso/32/247363_2.png) [@Joe\_Monso](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joe_Monso)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/1 "2017-10-13T09:48:42Z")

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There are male and female corpses in the game but no transgender ones, and while I am not transgender my feelings are greatly offended by this.

We must have transgender corpses put into the game asap. Im sure Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner approves of this and can be a model for it or something?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/2 "2017-10-13T09:53:38Z")

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Dont go this way. They could take those complaints seriously and just remove all corpses and use the “unspecified biomater” object.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/3 "2017-10-13T09:57:50Z")

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0/10 but I’m sure some idiots will bite

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**Author:** ![Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_luttrell_khan/32/148357_2.png) [@Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Luttrell_Khan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/4 "2017-10-13T10:06:42Z")

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[How about no?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc)

This is a video game. Don’t bring real world political/social issues into it.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/5 "2017-10-13T10:11:52Z")

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Why? Based on capsuler technology, we are put in a clone body. The bodies are created as described here:

[https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/cloning/](https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/scientific-articles/cloning/)

I don’t see why gender just couldn’t be switched when a new clone is picked. If you read the novels, there is a character called the broker who uses several clones including using one based on a high ranking Gall commander.

So basically, with cloning technology there are no transgendera because you could simply buy a clone of the gender you want, head out into space, self destruct your pod, and bam you wake up the sex you want.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/6 "2017-10-13T10:15:23Z")

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I’ve often wondered whether those biting take the bait seriously or are just playing along.

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/7 "2017-10-13T11:20:33Z")

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> [@Joe\_Monso](#):
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> There are male and female corpses in the game but no transgender ones, and while I am not transgender my feelings are greatly offended by this.
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> We must have transgender corpses put into the game asap. Im sure Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner approves of this and can be a model for it or something?

![tenor](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/f/9f0e234e0b7451432f117c6e4e1f9d6cd72f9feb.gif)

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/8 "2017-10-13T11:51:30Z")

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While superficially male or female, clones are genderless as they have no genitalia (think ken and barbie dolls), and don’t need the associated “plumbing” either as their reproductive process involves the reconstruction of existing DNA rather than the fusion of gametes.

Gender, physical or otherwise, is irrelevant when the “species” is capable of asexual reproduction.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/9 "2017-10-13T14:22:57Z")

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Did op just assume the corpses gender?

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**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/10 "2017-10-13T16:13:32Z")

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**Author:** ![Owen\_Levanth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/owen_levanth/32/379056_2.png) [@Owen\_Levanth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Owen_Levanth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/11 "2017-10-13T17:53:34Z")

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> [@Joe\_Monso](#):
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> There are male and female corpses in the game but no transgender ones, and while I am not transgender my feelings are greatly offended by this.
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> We must have transgender corpses put into the game asap. Im sure Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner approves of this and can be a model for it or something?

We already have. You seem to not know what “transgender” means, or why are you thinking a transgender-corpse looks any different from normal corpses? Your troll is like the weakest ever. Go read a few books until you are smart enough for another go.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/12 "2017-10-13T17:57:55Z")

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I thought there were around 70 genders. Oh wait, over 100…

[https://ktfnews.com/gender-identity-become-absurd/](https://ktfnews.com/gender-identity-become-absurd/)

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**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/13 "2017-10-13T19:22:26Z")

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Quite ridiculous, all these genders… you either have a peepee or a jayjay, or a mix somewhere in there.

I however, I am special, I am an attack helicopter.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/3/f3597426b8d555fee3314f7cc02a22a4e058a8a9.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Nadja\_Graziosa](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Nadja\_Graziosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadja_Graziosa)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/14 "2017-10-13T20:12:52Z")

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Hello,

i´m transgender, male to female.

Means i´m a woman in a male body.

And i believe most of us, don´t want an extra transgender body in the game, because there are man in female bodies, or woman in male bodies, there is no special transgender body in real life, so why should we need one in EVE?

transsexual, or transgender is not a additional sex!

greets

Nadja

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/15 "2017-10-13T20:54:40Z")

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> [@Nadja\_Graziosa](#):
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> And i believe most of us, don´t want an extra transgender body in the game

How could that even be represented by a naked corpse in space though? 🤔

I mean, if we wore clothes, I guess you could have a man with a beard in a dress or something, but otherwise how do you portray that there is a woman inside that mans body?

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**Author:** ![Nadja\_Graziosa](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Nadja\_Graziosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadja_Graziosa)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/16 "2017-10-13T21:49:20Z")

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Hi,

that question goes to Joe Monso^^

i also have no idea

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/17 "2017-10-15T13:46:39Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> While superficially male or female, clones are genderless as they have no genitalia (think ken and barbie dolls), and don’t need the associated “plumbing” either as their reproductive process involves the reconstruction of existing DNA rather than the fusion of gametes.

Actually… That’s not true. In one of the novels two capsules hook up. It is imomied both had died before. Later, one is killed the other escapes a gatecamp gone bad. They meet back up and the one who died laments not remembering how to pilot an interceptor due to a clone glitch. I believe they hook up again or try to but one’s feeling get in the way.

So no our clones are anatomically correct.

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**Author:** ![Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shallanna_yassavi/32/449714_2.png) [@Shallanna\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shallanna_Yassavi)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/18 "2017-10-15T16:31:12Z")

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[Politics in video games is old](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJA5YjvHDU).

Video games allow you to play with the concepts which show up in politics in ways non-interactive media can’t. There’s a whole mess of games (mostly indie, because AAA companies don’t like customers who apply high-level thought to their games so much these days) which let you explore a lot of current political issues through play. EVE itself is an incredibly complicated environment where politics spontaneously happen and politicking is something that pretty much everybody does at some level, even if it’s just Xing up to go blob someone.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-for-transgender-corpses/31247/19 "2018-01-13T16:31:12Z")

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