# Petition to restrict GILA's from entering Abyss or nerf them **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072 "2018-09-25T01:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/21 "2018-09-25T08:38:10Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > There are plenty of reasons to use other ships. In Abyss? Name some, please. Cause any polarized brawlers like Deimos are no go if 4 of your 7 leshaks or drifter battleships are deep outside realm boundaries… ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/22 "2018-09-25T08:40:53Z")
It’s always nice to see people posting comment with constructive opinions that can help the OP love forward from his/her/apache point of view and try to improve. Yours is the perfect definition of that, congrats ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/23 "2018-09-25T09:39:20Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > Name some, please. I have hundreds of completions with a Vagabond and half as many with a Deimos. I have never seen a ship outside the boundary on tranquility. I did during pre-release though. I even uploaded a video to YouTube of me doing several T5s in a row with nearly every room comp. But hey. I am sure you know better than someone that made billions in the abyss never using a Gila. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/24 "2018-09-25T09:52:04Z")
More Gilas! Gila for every Alpha! \o/ ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/25 "2018-09-25T10:13:38Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > I even uploaded a video to YouTube of me doing several T5s in a row with nearly every room comp. That would be a nice argument, unlike statement “I did 1 000 000 Abyss sites in Ibis”. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/26 "2018-09-25T10:19:12Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > That would be a nice argument, unlike statement Or like this argument. I never mentioned polarized fits. I never used them outside of the test server. My fits are neut immune with high tracking. > [@erg\_cz](#): > > Cause any polarized brawlers like Deimos are no go if 4 of your 7 leshaks or drifter battleships are deep outside realm boundaries… Easy to make an argument about something that no longer happens. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/27 "2018-09-25T10:21:43Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > low SP are the problem But we have cheat stix now… > [@Ildrara](#): > > I have… That is almost interesting because we are all the same, think the same, are the same age, gender, age, education, intelligence, height, weight, body-mass, fitness level and all look the same. Everything else is moot. The Gila was overnerfed already, no need to nerf her more. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/28 "2018-09-25T10:46:17Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > But we have cheat stix now… That doesn’t mean everyone can afford them. > [@elitatwo](#): > > That is almost interesting because we are all the same, think the same, are the same age, gender, age, education, intelligence, height, weight, body-mass, fitness level and all look the same. > Everything else is moot. Your sarcasm is tedious. > [@elitatwo](#): > > no need to nerf her more. I agree. Gila is fine the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/29 "2018-09-25T10:59:22Z")
So what OP is saying: - “stop flying ships I don’t approve” - “stop playing a sandbox the way I don’t approve” - “stop enjoying things and in ways I don’t approve” 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/30 "2018-09-25T11:06:21Z")
> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#): > > My take on it is that you should hop into one of those super OP gilas and show us all how that 4 minute or less abyss site farming is done. I’m sure there are a ton of people on here that will all be very interested in that. Hehehe… My best time was 5 mins in a T1 Abyss. Average performance is 7 mins. I can’t beat that 4 mins record, damn. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/31 "2018-09-25T11:52:39Z")
Confirming 4ish minute run on lv4. Just depends on the spawns sometimes you get 3 one hit drone spawns in a row. Approach can approach gate jump x3, everything is dead by the time you’re at the gate. Also, the Gila is absolutely broken relative to most of the other choices. Should be more options for turret application or abyss sites with drone/missile penalties. Darks should have had a missile/drone penalty and a tracking bonus instead of an optimal penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/32 "2018-09-25T12:01:45Z")
This is the nerfed Gila. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/33 "2018-09-25T12:02:57Z")
> [@Ildrara](#): > > Or like this argument. I never mentioned polarized fits. I never used them outside of the test server. My fits are neut immune with high tracking. ‘And my Ibis fits are doing 3000 DPS’. Video on youtube can be a valid argument, braging about some, maybe real, fits is not. Back then when Abyss was only on Sisi I played with vagabond a lot, but with so many missing shots even in half falloff I was loosing too much time on targets with large tank. So I switched to Eagle, but for already stated reasons I ended up on missile / drone boats like most of us. > [@Ildrara](#): > > > Cause any polarized brawlers like Deimos are no go if 4 of your 7 leshaks or drifter battleships are deep outside realm boundaries… > > Easy to make an argument about something that no longer happens. It happened to me on Tranquility during the Abyss event. So - not long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Drigo\_Segvian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drigo_segvian/32/325541_2.png) [@Drigo\_Segvian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drigo_Segvian)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/34 "2018-09-25T12:07:44Z")
Thanks, I try not to feed the trolls 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/35 "2018-09-25T12:40:37Z")
That’s some gud work here 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/36 "2018-09-25T13:05:09Z")
no no no no , the Gila BPC price will drop and I will be a sad panda. ---
**Author:** ![Bibosikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bibosikus/32/379586_2.png) [@Bibosikus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bibosikus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/37 "2018-09-25T14:48:38Z")
Gila is fine. check the kill boards. they die loads in abyss and its far from easy mode. its just a ship thats good at something. much liek the raven and tengu are go to mission boats. the Nightmare, vindi and mach are the go to incursion ships. Sure there are other ships that it would be nice to see good at things. but that is more a comment on the diversity of activities than the ships. Once upon a time Drakes were everywhere. many moons ago it was the Armageddon that ruled the space lanes… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/38 "2018-09-25T15:17:38Z")
Who cares who rides on the dumb Merry Go Round (abyss). ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/39 "2018-09-25T15:55:28Z")
Someone complaining because he is seeing,seeing not even harrased or killed or scared by too many ships of a kind must be new… Funny…and a luxury problem… Simply go away…😛 ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072/40 "2018-09-25T16:08:31Z")
Gilas have retarded dps and tank for a cruiser with very little weak points. They’re way too good and need to be nerfed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-restrict-gilas-from-entering-abyss-or-nerf-them/109072.md?page=3)