# Petition to the Throne, Imperial Majesty Catiz I **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789 "2019-10-21T12:07:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 39
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789/39 "2019-10-21T22:31:59Z")
> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#): > > This looks like a point of pride to me, Kernher, and that has always been your weakness. I’m not grilling Lyra. I’m grilling the idea that Nauplius is an isolated case. He’s not. He’s enabled by other people, the product of a rotten system, and trying to play him off as not representing the Empire is folly. I know this because I once _did that_. I too pushed the argument that he was a blooder who didn’t represent the Empire. But he does. He does because we’ve facilitated his existence. And until that changes, even if you ended Nauplius, more just like him would rise in his place. We have to acknowledge that Nauplius isn’t something we can just wash off. He’s a symptom of our sins. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789)._