# Petrus Justinianus and Dr Wilson scamming new corps by gaining the trust of new CEOs

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 7, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876 "2020-10-07T07:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cleopatra\_Ail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleopatra_ail/32/379424_2.png) [@Cleopatra\_Ail](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleopatra_Ail)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/81 "2020-10-07T22:02:22Z")

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Thank you but while I find these two players really sus, they didn’t actually accomplish their scam. Nothing is stolen other than a corp which costs very little time and money to replace.

So for that reason my only wish is that this thread continues to exist so that future recruiters may find these players with a Google search. They can then at least have a clue-- even if it doesn’t stop them completely from taking them into their corp, or purchasing their services, they can have that seed of suspicion which might be enough to keep them from trusting too much and losing isk or assets… or corps.

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**Author:** ![Zim\_Necron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zim_necron/32/233915_2.png) [@Zim\_Necron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zim_Necron)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/82 "2020-10-07T22:11:24Z")

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Dr Wilson is a good and honorable dude, if he offers terms he keeps to them. But as stated you never agreed to any terms, did not pay him, and left him out to dry because you wasted his valuable time. He managed to recruit like 20 or more players every week for us, and did a great job vetting them, something worth the isk as I am sure all of you know. I think he was just trying to recoup his losses when you screwed him out of the deal, if he indeed took your corp.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/83 "2020-10-07T22:13:23Z")

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@Cleopatra_Ail

I have and am currently using the good Dr Wilson’s services and plan to fairly represent his interests. He has on plenty of occasions provided fantastic services and is a well reputed repeat customer of my own services. Yes it is a shame you Cleo shamed one of your members who you say put a lot of assets into your organization then you accused of crimes. That fight is between you and them.

At what point I ask did Wilson do you wrong?  
I deeply suggest re hashing and negotiating a friendlier contact term in benefits of both parties equal success.

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**Author:** ![Cleopatra\_Ail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleopatra_ail/32/379424_2.png) [@Cleopatra\_Ail](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleopatra_Ail)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/84 "2020-10-07T22:13:34Z")

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You have been in your corp for 2 days, and prior to that you were in Dr Wilson’s corps.

Is it considered evidence against Dr Wilson if people obviously connected to him obviously lie on his behalf?

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/a/fa42f3a8f37a3d4859c7fe7b37597a3c8284f0ac.png)

It seems to me Snuggle Society and Dr Wilson’s corps are friends. I see that Don Purple is also a member of that same corp.

Is Dr Wilson able to provide references for corps not connected to him? Is a failure to do so further evidence of his attempt to manipulate the facts?

Is the fact that Dr Wilson is having several of his friends come here to defend him while pretending to unbiased not sus?

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/85 "2020-10-07T22:15:26Z")

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Wilson isn’t even the pilot accused of stealing shares from the corp that the alleged criminal invested billions into. He was a 3rd party dragged through the mud from inner corp politics and drama caused by poor communication and confusion of eve mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Cleopatra\_Ail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleopatra_ail/32/379424_2.png) [@Cleopatra\_Ail](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleopatra_Ail)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/86 "2020-10-07T22:18:19Z")

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But why did Zim just lie for him if he’s innocent?

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/87 "2020-10-07T22:21:02Z")

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The easiest method to allow wilson to recruit is to invite him in. He comes, does his work, then hours about his business. If you look deeper it will show how much of a repeat customer I am in his products and or services.

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**Author:** ![Cleopatra\_Ail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleopatra_ail/32/379424_2.png) [@Cleopatra\_Ail](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleopatra_Ail)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/88 "2020-10-07T22:22:51Z")

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Your corp is 3 years old and has 46 members. He must be a pro recruiter. I’m sure you have wallet records to show 2b isk upfront payments to Mr Wilson?

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/89 "2020-10-07T22:23:17Z")

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Zim has been playing with me for nearly a month, they ended up in wilson’s corp over war dec mechanics and the enjoyable company that wilson provides. I currently have 6 new pilots I’m flying with whom I have met through Dr Wilson

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**Author:** ![Cleopatra\_Ail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleopatra_ail/32/379424_2.png) [@Cleopatra\_Ail](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleopatra_Ail)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/90 "2020-10-07T22:24:46Z")

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Yes, you are all friends, and you are here to cover up the shady scams that I’m sure you all run together. I’m glad you included your name in this conversation so that you are also searchable.

I don’t think this is productive debating with obviously biased friends of the accused so I’m going to unsubscribe from this conversation.

You guys have been fun to chat with! Thank you. God bless!

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/91 "2020-10-07T22:26:07Z")

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I have a painful amount of wallet transactions to said player, he however does not charge me nearly as much since I freely represent his interests and defense and I usually come out positive from him having to pay me to demolish competition and people of I’ll intent.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Purple](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/don_purple/32/417736_2.png) [@Don\_Purple](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Don_Purple)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/92 "2020-10-07T22:28:59Z")

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Since you refuse to acknowledge your blasphemy against an upstanding member and retreat over lack of proof I call the court closed and charges dropped against Dr Wilson.

I look forward to seeing you.

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**Author:** ![Zim\_Necron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zim_necron/32/233915_2.png) [@Zim\_Necron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zim_Necron)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/93 "2020-10-07T22:54:39Z")

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Just so you know, I joined to help him set up some structures so he could better aid members of his corporation, and the other free players of EVE. Then when my corp got into a war (which we won thanks to some of the recruits the good Dr. got for us) I was unable to rejoin immediately afterwards. Would a scammer have ever given a relatively new person total control of their structure? I say no.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/94 "2020-10-08T02:05:37Z")

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The Prosecution stands down as it appears the Plaintiffs have dropped the case.

What’s next on the roster 🥱?

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**Author:** ![Jorghinos\_Bukandara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorghinos_bukandara/32/280452_2.png) [@Jorghinos\_Bukandara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorghinos_Bukandara)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/95 "2020-10-08T04:32:28Z")

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As reading this i understood how both parties disagree tbh case of Dr is more well written as well he is a respected man in the community

I call this a neutral win both parties did a well job but Dr Wilsons POV is more well wriiten ans responsible

Therefore i ask the judge to close this case  
as no further evidence agains Dr Wilson and Petrus have been provided

Thank you

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/96 "2020-10-08T22:51:03Z")

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> [@Cleopatra\_Ail](#):
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> Yes, you are all friends, and you are here to cover up the shady scams that I’m sure you all run together. I’m glad you included your name in this conversation so that you are also searchable.

Well done and thxs for posting, , I could have put money on the characters that would have replied to this post and would have been 100% right.

Good luck with your next corp and never really trust anyone with corp stuff your not happy to lose, if you need help with anything give me a call in game.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/97 "2020-10-08T22:52:15Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> if you need help with anything give me a call in game.

Githany Red is a scammer.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/98 "2020-10-08T22:55:26Z")

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My list of titles grow longer by the day , thank you princess.

🙄

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/99 "2020-10-09T00:55:41Z")

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Do the bathwater flagons really contain traces of the Princess’s DNA, is it counterfeit, or is it pod fluid ?

Come and see in next week’s episode of “Justice Between the Stars”: “ **The Clone Cologne Case** ”

_cue dramatic music_

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**Author:** ![Petrus\_Justinianus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/petrus_justinianus/32/289300_2.png) [@Petrus\_Justinianus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Petrus_Justinianus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petrus-justinianus-and-dr-wilson-scamming-new-corps-by-gaining-the-trust-of-new-ceos/271876/100 "2020-10-10T00:07:26Z")

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It has been brought to my attention that the plaintiffs are now contacting the CEO’s of any corp that I join stating that I scammed them. I would like to file a restraining order on the grounds that the plaintiffs are “mega buttmad” and should learn how to effectively run a corp before blaming innocent directors.

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