# PHOENIX NAVAL OPERATIONS TO JOIN ELECTUS MATARI **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527 "2019-04-28T04:35:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Karmilla\_Strife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karmilla_strife/32/439678_2.png) [@Karmilla\_Strife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karmilla_Strife)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/21 "2019-04-29T00:15:58Z")
I doubt they care ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/22 "2019-04-29T00:56:15Z")
Are you still on about Thebeka… I forgot about it months ago… War is business Karmilla, It was never personal. Besides I didn’t shoot any blues. ---
**Author:** ![Karmilla\_Strife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karmilla_strife/32/439678_2.png) [@Karmilla\_Strife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karmilla_Strife)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/23 "2019-04-29T00:59:09Z")
You’ve got it very wrong, Naava dear. I’m one of your defenders on that and a few other issues. Hugs and Kisses. I hope after your EM adventure, we can continue being friends again. ---
**Author:** ![Onslaughtor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onslaughtor/32/298273_2.png) [@Onslaughtor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onslaughtor)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/24 "2019-04-29T01:09:12Z")
Originally we were discussing creating a joint alliance specifically for this operation. However the paperwork quickly became untenable and we just decided since it required less button pushes from me, PHX-O would just join EM. As for why, well it actually started when we were assisting ARC with Hog Collective attacks. We found their corp hopping away from fights very dishonorable, so it has been a back burner plan to punish them for it ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/25 "2019-04-29T01:17:27Z")
Ons dear, we need not say or justify why we are doing what we are doing. And Karmilla call me confused then but I still feel like you are asking me for a fight, either that or a date. ---
**Author:** ![Karmilla\_Strife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karmilla_strife/32/439678_2.png) [@Karmilla\_Strife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karmilla_Strife)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/26 "2019-04-29T01:29:40Z")
Close, very close. ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/27 "2019-04-29T01:34:11Z")
Aww… Don’t leave me wondering now, my mind might wander. ---
**Author:** ![Karmilla\_Strife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karmilla_strife/32/439678_2.png) [@Karmilla\_Strife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karmilla_Strife)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/28 "2019-04-29T01:54:34Z")
maybe that’s the point. The person that I want to fight, knows it, then, maybe, we’ll go on a date. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/29 "2019-04-29T01:56:22Z")
Is this courtship? This looks like courtship. And good luck with the bacon fry-up, Ms. Edios! ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/30 "2019-04-29T02:19:24Z")
You are always welcome to join if you wish Makoto, with the bacon fry-up that is. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/31 "2019-04-29T04:21:54Z")
> [@Kithrus](#): > > wonder what the logs on that conversation we’re like They do not look like EM particularly _wanting_ a Sansha pilot under the banner, I assure you. ---
**Author:** ![Shana\_Nuu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shana_nuu/32/317523_2.png) [@Shana\_Nuu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shana_Nuu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/32 "2019-04-29T04:43:00Z")
Ya, good luck with that. We are called the pirates when EM have been partnering with anyone and everyone including Russians who will eventually eat their lunch. I hope you all have dug in because we are in it for the long haul. How about you? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/33 "2019-04-29T04:58:55Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > So, it’s not controversial having unrepentant Nation-ist Evi Polevhia, who is also a holder of the Imperial Navy Righteous Cross medal, as a member of Electus Matari ? > > Alright then. > > What _is_ controversial by your standards ? TBH, I see nothing either controversial or unexpected from this merge. Minmatars are already quite infamous for their affinity for criminality. Besides, I don’t see the status quo changing. EM are known for their disposition against the State and Empire - even while they’re not our direct enemies, I believe when met in space they could be considered as one. PNO are a shelter organization for criminal groups, and in addition to that they has shown themselves as direct enemies of Amarr Empire (and by thus - of Caldari State). Now they’re fighting together… and what? We’d have to deal with them one by one if they wouldn’t unite their forces anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/34 "2019-04-29T06:25:50Z")
> [@Shana\_Nuu](#): > > I hope you all have dug in because we are in it for the long haul. How about you? You _do_ realize EM is lead by Gradient, one of the oldest indie capsuleer corporations still in existence, right? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/35 "2019-04-29T06:33:10Z")
> [@Karmilla\_Strife](#): > > I doubt they care I do. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/36 "2019-04-29T06:55:13Z")
Does it mean you’re against it? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/37 "2019-04-29T07:33:47Z")
> [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Does it mean you’re against it? I have had several discussions about this with my command and with PNS diplomacy and I am satisfied that this course of action is in the best interests of my alliance and the free tribes. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/38 "2019-04-29T07:37:49Z")
I am sorry, I misunderstood it then. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/39 "2019-04-29T08:40:29Z")
It’s not all that surprising, I’ve witnessed plenty groups in this cluster sacrifice their dignity and beliefs to achieve success. Even with our soured relations, I do hope you accomplish whatever it is that requires working closely with dangerous entities. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/40 "2019-04-29T12:21:27Z")
> [@John\_Revenent](#): > > sacrifice their dignity and beliefs to achieve success I get what you are saying and I even sort of agree, but this also reminds me of something I already said in YC108 or so: if you are willing to give up your life and that of your tribe’s, but you are not willing to give up your pride and your honor, you are not a loyalist, you are a glory hound. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527.md?page=3)