# PHOENIX NAVAL OPERATIONS TO JOIN ELECTUS MATARI **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527 "2019-04-28T04:35:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/41 "2019-04-29T13:02:18Z")
Loyalty is diligence, walking a path from beginning to end without deviation. Not that many capsuleers would agree, given their nature. ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/42 "2019-04-29T13:07:26Z")
The Nature of destruction and deception Revenant-Haan? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/43 "2019-04-29T13:08:04Z")
That describes capsuleers well, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/44 "2019-04-29T13:18:05Z")
You walk the path to help those who are in need. To protect the weak and defenceless do you not John? ---
**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/45 "2019-04-29T13:27:18Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > if you are willing to give up your life and that of your tribe’s, but you are not willing to give up your pride and your honor, you are not a loyalist, you are a glory hound. Glad then, that we agree. ---
**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/46 "2019-04-29T13:36:07Z")
> [@John\_Revenent](#): > > dangerous entities Flatter me too hard, sir, and I might take your intentions incorrectly. You’ll make a lady start blushing. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/47 "2019-04-29T15:20:22Z")
> [@John\_Revenent](#): > > Loyalty is diligence, walking a path from beginning to end without deviation. > > Not that many capsuleers would agree, given their nature. How you even DARE to speak about Loyalty after signing BLUE PACTS with Federal militia and flying with them?.. ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/48 "2019-04-29T15:33:49Z")
Take it elsewhere Kim-Haani, we have better things to discuss here. Such as fried bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/49 "2019-04-29T15:35:09Z")
Im sorry, I am just getting OVERLY annoyed when people like that talking about things like that. So… the bacon. Did you join them for the bacon? ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/50 "2019-04-29T15:41:39Z")
Joined them to learn the fine art of cooking bacon together. I encourage others to join in the cooking of Bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/51 "2019-04-29T15:44:40Z")
Thank you for the invitation, but I really prefer healthy synthetic food to eating, excuse me, animals. ---
**Author:** ![Shana\_Nuu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shana_nuu/32/317523_2.png) [@Shana\_Nuu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shana_Nuu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/52 "2019-04-29T16:00:11Z")
Your point? They got crushed, and they were the one that kept poking the bores nest. So they had to look for help where they can get it (Russians and the likes). They are not big and bad, PNO is much more respectable. However, pants down that first night, was a stroke of genius. Things rarely work twice, what happens next? ---
**Author:** ![Naava\_Edios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naava_edios/32/456336_2.png) [@Naava\_Edios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naava_Edios)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/53 "2019-04-29T16:23:35Z")
I see nothing wrong with pants down on the first night. But carefully calling us respectable, others might object. ---
**Author:** ![Debes\_Sparre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/debes_sparre/32/367091_2.png) [@Debes\_Sparre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Debes_Sparre)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/54 "2019-04-29T16:38:47Z")
The Hogs Collective started this fight. They first attacked Electus Matari, with no provocation, reinforcing multiple structures, in December of last year. They were incredibly unsuccessful in achieving any hard objectives, and declined all major engagements. In Feburary, Electus Matari retaliated, successfully prosecuting an attack against a structure used to provide Hog Hitmen with the legal requirements needed to continue their campaign of unprovoked, piratical wars. PNS participated in that war, but the Hogs Collective used one of their favorite tricks and switched all of their combat members into an alliance that was only a valid wartarget for Electus Matari. Despite this, Electus Matari easily defeated the hostile fleet with no assistance, as none could be given. No further targets were hit. Yet again, however, the Hog Collective attacked Electus Matari assets again in April, and again failed to be successful at this attempt. They took a single fight, and lost nearly all combat ships and failed to achieve anything other than costing Electus Matari forces some ammo. Last week, and for the first time, Electus Matari went on the offensive and hit non-combat support structures of the Hog Collective. This decision was made without regard to the defensive war that Nanofiber Bolts was in. Their decision to likewise go on the offensive was independent. Indeed, you will see that other than some minor skirmishing, there has not been any direct combat coordination of the two forces. The Hogs Collective has made enough enemies with its unprovoked, piratical, baseless wars, that we don’t need to (and indeed, would not and did not) ask other forces hostile to us to assist in this. They choose to do it all on their own. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/55 "2019-04-29T16:41:13Z")
Whom do these Hogs represent, whom do they align with? ---
**Author:** ![Debes\_Sparre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/debes_sparre/32/367091_2.png) [@Debes\_Sparre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Debes_Sparre)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/56 "2019-04-29T16:43:01Z")
Themselves. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/57 "2019-04-29T19:41:29Z")
You think highly of yourself Polevhia. While the list has you name on it, you’re not alone. > How you even DARE to speak about Loyalty after signing BLUE PACTS with Federal militia and flying with them?.. Eat dirt like your late mentor. Your words are more hollow then those uplifted by a crazed cult. ---
**Author:** ![Shana\_Nuu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shana_nuu/32/317523_2.png) [@Shana\_Nuu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shana_Nuu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/58 "2019-04-29T19:46:49Z")
Funny how you pride yourself as a pirate type faction then throw the word around at random. No sir we are not pirate! We are collective and in that end, you will either be assimilated or made not here. We thus far have played around like we do as hogs, but, now, you want us to get more serious and serious we will get. 😛 Haha, sucks to be you. So you got a little bacon, but, we will sharpen our tusks and make it a glorious fight. That’s what we enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/59 "2019-04-29T20:24:03Z")
> [@Shana\_Nuu](#): > > Funny how you pride yourself as a pirate type faction then throw the word around at random. It’s like, man, did you do _any_ research into your targets before poking them with a stick? ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527/60 "2019-04-29T20:30:17Z")
Hogs don’t really seem to do effort. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/phoenix-naval-operations-to-join-electus-matari/155527.md?page=4)