# PI which is better, (P0-P2 then P2-P4) or (P0-P1 then P1-P3 then P3-P4)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pi-which-is-better-p0-p2-then-p2-p4-or-p0-p1-then-p1-p3-then-p3-p4/171720 "2019-07-04T14:26:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pi-which-is-better-p0-p2-then-p2-p4-or-p0-p1-then-p1-p3-then-p3-p4/171720/5 "2019-07-05T08:05:01Z")
Extraction-\>P2 planets are notorious for being troublesome when balancing both the required extraction rates. Extractors themselves require vast amounts of powergrid to the point I would honestly advise against using more than one per planet. Efficient Extraction-\>P1 setups can be built with CCU-IV, so you only need one (maybe two) characters with CCU-V for an efficient factory planet setup to crack all the P1s your other PI alts are producing. In fairness, I have heard of some folk making a hybrid extraction-\>P1 setup that takes another imported P1 and cracks that with the locally produced P1 to make a P2. I haven’t made such a setup personally. You’ll also need to factor your tax rates in, so flex that spreadsheet-fu and compare the profitability of producing P4s over selling the P2 or P3 components. FYI: here’s my basic setups from when I was making Nanite Paste from scratch: [Meph's Magical PI Setups for the Interminably Lazy](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mephs-magical-pi-setups-for-the-interminably-lazy/54904) --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pi-which-is-better-p0-p2-then-p2-p4-or-p0-p1-then-p1-p3-then-p3-p4/171720)._