# \[PIE\] Jubilee Celebrations **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pie-jubilee-celebrations/188170 "2019-09-06T19:01:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 45
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pie-jubilee-celebrations/188170/45 "2019-09-11T20:37:27Z")
You’re right, it is. After all, let’s look at who’s being mourned: > [@Shaikar](#): > > Lastly, though the occasion of the Jubilee is joyous, we shall close it by honoring those who have become martyrs to the Faith in the past year, and in days past. Upon Saturday the 5th of October, one week after celebrations have ended, the Chapter shall host a memorial tour fleet that will visit each Imperial world that has suffered from the infamous Deathglow and related terrorist attacks to honour all those who lost their lives. The event will culminate in a ceremony held in the Oris Chapterhouse Memorial Gardens to honor the Excubitoris war dead of the past year, especially those lost defending the Empire in Thebeka. So if Aldrith’s gonna go claiming Elsebeth and the rest of us Minmatar are “the reason [you] must mourn in the first place”, then I guess he’s saying we’re responsible for _all_ of ‘those who have become martyrs to the Faith in the past year’. **THE** reason. Not even ‘a’ reason. The only one. Without us, no reason to mourn. Muh bad. Edit: Yes. Obviously, I’m being hyperbolic. I’m being over the top. I’m wildly exaggerating to make my point here. Aldrith is explicitly blaming Elsebeth for deaths in a conflict where **PIE** dec’d EM. PIE did that. PIE doesn’t do that, PIE doesn’t lose anyone. PIE could’ve just as easily contributed to the interdiction of _baseliner traffic_, since we eggers _can’t_ go traipsing on down in our egg-ships, without an active wardec. But you can’t even admit that Aldrith could maybe have not been such a mouth-breathing fool in the way he expresses his self-righteous ‘let’s blame the people we declared war on for daring to shoot back’. And why? > [@Peace in our time](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/peace-in-our-time/188244/123): > > And that expectation of superiority… it creates personal expectations, too. How screwed up will people be when they’re told, generation after generation, that God says they’re perfect, so they better not be anything less than that? > > It leads to people who can’t dare admit to errors. In some ways, the Rebellion was probably the healthiest thing that’s ever happened to the Empire. And that’s pretty screwed up on its own, ain’t it? Because your long history of ■■■■■■■ other people up has ■■■■■■ you up, too. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pie-jubilee-celebrations/188170)._