# Player Bounties & Killrights temporarily disabled

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [October 13, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017 "2020-10-13T08:47:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/272 "2020-12-12T22:02:42Z")

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I wish I was a CCP rep - I would get a bunch of free Omega accounts that way.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/273 "2020-12-12T22:05:52Z")

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Is that all you can say? If someone doesn’t agree with you, they’re suddenly CCP employees? And people wonder why CCP devs don’t pay attention to these forums…

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/274 "2020-12-12T22:08:05Z")

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you can’t circumvent the points I have previously made, so other than you endeavouring to show affection to ccp erectile things, I shall discount your opinion as folly, toots

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**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/275 "2020-12-13T01:31:45Z")

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> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#):
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> you can’t circumvent the points I have previously made, so other than you endeavouring to show affection to ccp erectile things, I shall discount your opinion as folly, toots

> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#):
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> Dear @CCP_Dopamine is there an update available on this - several months have passed, If CCP wish to admit that retribution / bounty hunting was an awful expansion - please come to this conclusion and make a decision - I don’t really care about the bounty that i had - the fact there’s been no update on this several moths down the line just reflects the reality that the inner consensus within CCP must now be that it was a bad mechanic replaced with a more paper thin one packaged as an expansion to the game - folly per se. Please enlighten are bounties being removed or restored as per this thread?

Where is there a point made other than that you think the expansions referenced are bad? There isn’t anything in those posts to discuss other than a 100% subjective ‘this sucks’ sentiment.

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/276 "2020-12-14T00:02:22Z")

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3 months and no update from CCP - it speaks for itself - if CCP can’t fathom a response after 3 months of data collection then it just augments the suggestion that this is an exercise to endeavour to brush previous bad expansion mechanics under the carpet. If I’m wrong I am sure the next post from CCP in this thread will dispel this notion and prove me wrong, hue, hue. \*looks at watch and smirks sarcastically.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/277 "2020-12-14T00:05:35Z")

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It really wouldn’t hurt CCP to engage with the community. The fact that they are not obligated to do so, does not change the likelihood that doing so would be a wise business practice.

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**Author:** ![Zigzer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zigzer/32/242589_2.png) [@Zigzer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zigzer)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/278 "2020-12-14T00:53:44Z")

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We need more nerfs and cuts. Game went wrong way…

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/279 "2020-12-14T04:34:25Z")

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2 months and they are still collecting data… all you that are whiny over the bounties being gone still, get over yourselves… and by “all you” i mean @Boom_Boom_Longtime Learn how to count dude. 2 months not 3… are you that upset over bounties/killrights being gone that you have to start having temper tantrums to some respected people on the forums like scoots or mkikaden??

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/280 "2020-12-14T04:36:39Z")

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However, if bounties are gone because people were whining about them not being gone, then shouldn’t you get over yourself?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/281 "2020-12-14T09:15:00Z")

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I miss the bounty pay outs from killing criminals, each months it would add up to a nice amount.

I had to start mining to make up the short fall 😲

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**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/282 "2020-12-14T11:02:51Z")

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temporarily is the new permanent in ccplalaland.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/283 "2020-12-14T12:31:49Z")

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Are they still collecting data on the Abyssal Flagging too or was that just swept under the carpet?

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/284 "2020-12-14T23:42:51Z")

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Sorry who are you, and please enlighten me why you are trying to project that I am whining @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras ? I’m also not aware who these respected forum people are per se - none of this detracts from the lack of update from CCP - so I actually pity you for clutching at straws, but alas, maybe CCP will respond in this thread and update so you don’t need to spout more nonsense Geo

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**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/285 "2020-12-15T10:42:15Z")

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> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#):
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> 3 months and no update from CCP - it speaks for itself

Lol, you think 3 _months_ is bad, how about 2 years!!

Check this out:

> [@ECM Balance Pass - November](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ecm-balance-pass-november/115696):
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> Hello! In October we made a big change to ECM which allowed jammed targets to always lock the source of the jam. The purpose of this change was to give a more active path to countering ECM on the battlefield, but, we knew it would also take power from an already suffering form of ewar. Our plan is to to begin building back towards reasonable power balance for ECM ships and modules under the new mechanic, and we will make the first step in that direction this November. Changes: All ECM module…

That’s Oct 2018! Now get back to us when some time has actually passed 😛

Cypr3ss.

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/286 "2020-12-16T22:23:53Z")

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I don’t disagree with you - the fact that CCP can’t fathom an update after 3 months of collating data no less is indicative of failings - and failings of previous expansions rolled out as “exciting new content” and “retribution for actions will be felt across eve”, etc, etc - I see logging in today there is a redeem tab for events on the bottom left of my screen which I have so far not been able to disable in light of the fact that I have no intent to undock or do any events - the force feeding of all this “theme park” content by CCP makes me actually question how time is spent within the organisation these days - skins, more skins, shitty events, free sp - it all shits on the original fundamentals of eve online - but hey, if CCP are making the Koreans coin, then i guess they’re happy.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/287 "2020-12-16T22:28:05Z")

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> [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](#):
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> CCP can’t fathom an update after 3 months of collating data no less **is indicative of failings**

This logic does not make sense.

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/288 "2020-12-30T00:20:30Z")

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So no reply or update from CCP after this amount of time - @CCP_Dopamine update to this this thread - or is this an admission that the exciting new content bounty hunting “retribution” expansion was a failure per se? Please Update

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**Author:** ![Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boom_boom_longtime/32/503592_2.png) [@Boom\_Boom\_Longtime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boom_Boom_Longtime)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/289 "2021-01-07T23:42:46Z")

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Again - no reply or update from CCP in this post. Funny that. Case in Veritas the bad expansion that was “retribution” is now being reversed and hopefully hidden under the carpet and removed by CCP. No update after this amount of time to evaluate the data just screams to me - it was a bad mechanic change that CCP packaged as an exciting new expansion. @CCP_Dopamine for the second time please update on your analysis after this time - or stay tacit in acceptance the expansion was mutton tried to be dressed by CCP as lamb - and now acknowledged internally as mutton i shall assume.

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**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/290 "2021-01-08T12:59:46Z")

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Security status needs removed, why gimp pvp in low sec by preventing those who do it from entering high? Meanwhile null pvp has no punishment.

Forgetting lore, why does ccp want to financially punish low sec pvp’s?

Not bothered personally, not a space poor.

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**Author:** ![Race\_Scott](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/race_scott/32/250589_2.png) [@Race\_Scott](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Race_Scott)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/291 "2021-01-10T11:13:10Z")

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Without bounty’s there is NO player imposed justice in EVE. With bounties at least a modicum of satisfaction can be gained by a rookie Venture miner who has no chance against a more powerful advisory and is subsequently blown to bits in what was always an unfair fight. EVE will descend into gank space and all new players will be forced to join corps or groups removing the very fundamentals of free space.

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