# Player criminals should give sec status gain

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-criminals-should-give-sec-status-gain/422900>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [October 6, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-criminals-should-give-sec-status-gain/422900 "2023-10-06T00:21:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-criminals-should-give-sec-status-gain/422900/75 "2023-10-18T09:24:45Z")

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> [@Von\_Baron\_Crimstofrson](#):
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> If you’re the average low sec PvP pilot, it would still be useful.

and why is this important to the average low sec pilot ? they hav sec status -10 because they kill ppl and they dont care about it. they are not interestet in gain sec status. if they do its ok but next engagement they lose it anyways

> [@Von\_Baron\_Crimstofrson](#):
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> Very interesting opinion you have here. I’m sure the devs would love to learn more from you about this. 😉

whats your problem with that ?  
maybe i didnt wrote that bots are poison in an MMO ?  
or because you dont understand there is a difference between cheating ( included in game code ) or botting ( external programm or script )

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