# Player Harassmemt, by bumping

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 9, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980 "2019-03-09T20:11:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mark\_O\_Helm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_o_helm/32/154936_2.png) [@Mark\_O\_Helm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_O_Helm)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/22 "2019-03-10T07:35:11Z")

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CCP promised a solution for constant bumping years ago. I wonder why they never talked about it after that. Look at 51:42.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/23 "2019-03-10T08:14:16Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/1/1dac30bf47d3526b8672e12597fa2090f3557e6f.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Iqy3lny.png)

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/24 "2019-03-10T08:23:55Z")

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> [@Pogmo\_Thon](#):
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> CCP needs to sort this out,

No, they don’t.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/28 "2019-03-10T09:39:52Z")

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Probably because they couldn’t come up with anything which wouldn’t break EVE or wouldn’t be gamed.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_O\_Helm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_o_helm/32/154936_2.png) [@Mark\_O\_Helm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_O_Helm)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/29 "2019-03-10T10:01:06Z")

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My guess would be the angry emails he mentioned.

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**Author:** ![Crash\_n\_Burn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crash_n_burn/32/122441_2.png) [@Crash\_n\_Burn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crash_n_Burn)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/30 "2019-03-10T14:38:00Z")

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cry loud! you ganking alts 😃

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You don’t need the law then, because going by your idiotic advice to file a harassment suit, you’re far from smart.
> 
> Let me put it another way, if you play Football, and someone repeatedly takes the ball from you, are they harassing you, or are they playing the game?
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> TL;DR When you sign up to play a game you accept the rules of the game.

you may not have understood what it is written, that’s why it’s for smart people, not for minors.

> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#):
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> lol okey dokey then
> 
> EDIT:  
> Outraged Crash to lawyer: I WANT TO SUE CCP!
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> lawyer: Ok - is that a company?
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> OC: Yes, they make a video game I play where some people have been mean to me!
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> Lawyer: A…video game? Ah. What damages have been caused to you?
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> OC: Well…mental anguish! These people in the game HARASSED me in the game and the game company LET IT HAPPEN!
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> lawyer: \*clickclickclick - It looks like all the players of that Eve Online game you’re wanting to sue agree to certain terms before getting to even play that game…so shall I assume you agreed to those terms as well?
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> OC: Well…yes…but…SOME PEOPLE WERE MEAN TO ME IN THERE!
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> lawyer: Ok…one of the things you agreed to was that any disputes arising from the game would be settled in accordance with Icelandic law…that’s going to be difficult for me and therefor expensive for you, but we can probably work with that…maybe. The biggest problem will be a legal principle called “assumption of risk.” Say you decided of your own free will to play a sport and you get hit by the ball or even hurt during gameplay that is allowed under the rules of the game that you willingly participated in. Suing is going to be pretty difficult.
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> lawyer: Actually, mr. Outraged…I don’t think you have much of a winnable case here and frankly it’s going to make me look like a hack to even bring it forward to be slapped down as trivial and a waste of the legal system’s time. I won’t take your case, sorry.
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> OC: but…but…REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATES THEM MEANIES! I HATES THEM!
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> ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/9/a919fb50dd8d7c6edc568248a3b66cd78bd62fa2.jpeg)

also fun as ■■■■

But you get invoices for payments at CCP, right?

So you can sue anyone, right?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/31 "2019-03-11T12:52:38Z")

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> [@Crash\_n\_Burn](#):
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> you may not have understood what it is written

I understood what you posted just fine, it was inane and terrible advice, unless of course you like getting laughed at by someone in the legal profession.

> that’s why it’s for smart people, not for minors.

What about smart minors? Is it for them?

BTW I’m far from a minor, by several decades. Being smart on the other hand is open to personal interpretation, by mine you’re certainly not.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/32 "2019-03-12T08:56:07Z")

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Why not let them? This US-logic is totally not going to backfire and totally not going to cost anyone, who is stupid enough to try, a ton of money for zero gain. Totally not.

Let them bankrupt themselves if they want to.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/33 "2019-03-19T04:25:56Z")

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> [@Crash\_n\_Burn](#):
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> So harassment has a personal meaning for him which is understandable and perhaps prosecuted in his country?

LOL Europe is silly…

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/34 "2019-03-19T09:15:42Z")

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That was funny. But same applies to whinning gankers who complain hisec is too safe, there should be no local, etc

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/35 "2019-03-19T09:46:06Z")

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You know that you easily could get rid of bumping if you simply make collission damage possible?

Both for ship to ship and ship to object?

THAT would be the real fun 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hun\_Tra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hun_tra/32/511052_2.png) [@Hun\_Tra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hun_Tra)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/36 "2019-03-19T09:47:10Z")

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rip jita undock lol

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/37 "2019-03-19T09:47:30Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> LOL Europe is silly…

No just right…no “anybody can do anything” like in us…🙂

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/38 "2019-03-19T09:48:30Z")

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> [@Hun\_Tra](#):
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> rip jita undock lol

So what?

Just have more dock off points …and ban everybody that abuses it…

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/39 "2019-03-19T15:12:03Z")

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Yeah just ban everybody! Great game administration. 🥑

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/40 "2019-03-19T16:58:26Z")

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> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> Just have more dock off points …and ban everybody that abuses it…

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/6/8623fd15135a85a95b50ca0b99c70741c42ee849.jpeg)

Actually, that’s a lie; I see that level of stupid every time you post your batshit insane agenda of a PvE only area in a PvP game.

Du hast einen Vogel.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/41 "2019-03-19T17:04:43Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Actually, that’s a lie; I see that level of stupid every time you post your batshit insane agenda of a PvE only area in a PvP game.

If this is all you have to say about it than it is possible that you are the problem,not my opinion…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/42 "2019-03-19T17:06:38Z")

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Are you claiming that your pursuit of a PvE only area in a PvP game isn’t the least bit crazy?

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/43 "2019-03-19T17:08:41Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Are you claiming that your pursuit of a PvE only area in a PvP game isn’t the least bit crazy?

No crazy is this holy war pvp is fighting against any change to the better…

It’s blasphemic to even think that less pvp could be the solution here…because pvp was here before god even existed…THIS is the way some see it and you call ME crazy? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-harassmemt-by-bumping/144980/44 "2019-03-19T17:10:25Z")

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Better is subjective.

Your idea of what is better is someone else’s idea of worse.

We get it, you don’t like playing a game that has an overall PvP environment; so why don’t you play a game that doesn’t have this?

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