# Players as Content and the Victim Mindset **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [August 11, 2022, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239 "2022-08-11T05:29:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/142 "2022-08-13T18:05:47Z")
Oh yeah, Ramona hates me because I’m not an SJW and I’m critical of CCP adopting “diversity/inclusivity/equity” as the underlying framework of their EULA/TOS rework. Apparently this makes me a racist/misogynist/conspiracy theorist/insertwhateverbuzzword etcetc. Another example of bigotry. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/143 "2022-08-13T18:12:27Z")
No, you just have some sort of bizairre delusion about marxist revolutionaries which makes you assume incorrectly a wide range of things, including your readings of what you think people believe. I dont hate you, I think you should see a healthcare professional. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/144 "2022-08-13T18:16:42Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > you just have some sort of bizairre delusion about marxist revolutionaries Pointing out the influence Marx has had on modern progressive frameworks (in particular, the constellation of philosophies known as “Theory”) has nothing to do with “Marxist revolutionaries”. You do realize Marx was a philosopher, right, and that past philosophers influence present philosophers, right? > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > you assume incorrectly a wide range of things Not really. Everything I posted in that thread regarding Theory was straight from the horse’s mouth. What you’re doing is making a charicature here and attacking that. AKA a straw man. You should do better. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/145 "2022-08-13T18:18:49Z")
This thread is turning into ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/146 "2022-08-13T18:18:53Z")
The fact that you are literally doing everything you are accusing me of, based on nothing, escapes you and that I actually find amazing. The idea that you think I dont embrace my biggotry as my greatest strength is even more stunning. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/147 "2022-08-13T18:21:10Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The fact that you are literally doing everything you are accusing me of, based on nothing, escapes you and that I actually find amazing. Oh cool, the “NO U” response. You got me! > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The idea that you think I dont embrace my biggotry as my greatest strength is even more stunning. Yeah ideologues usually do think that their closed-mindedness is a strength. “No compromise!” Always ends poorly tho. You’ll get there one day. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/148 "2022-08-13T18:24:20Z")
I dont need to prove my last post any better than you just did for me. But sure keep up aiming at the those phantom targets. Im sure youll achieve… Something someday. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/149 "2022-08-13T18:25:18Z")
Well that happens everytime you let peoples into it. I mean, EVE was such a great game as well. Until players started playing it… ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/150 "2022-08-13T18:35:36Z")
Cool story. I’m still awaiting your refutation of anything I wrote in that thread. So far you’ve offered nothing but twitter level hurfablurfing and accusing me of “conspiracy theories”. So go ahead and keep hurfablurfing. It’s weak and just makes you look like the typical neurotic SJW who can’t deal with the fact that people disagree. I mean I actually study this stuff in grad school. So I guess thanks for the laughs. I love when laypersons get worked up over things that no serious academic would call into question. It’s not like you can’t read about what I’m talking about on _Wikipedia_. ty4salt ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/151 "2022-08-13T18:39:59Z")
I like fish sticks… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/152 "2022-08-13T18:41:38Z")
I still have no idea why you think I have “sjw” views. Thats the mystery. What you challenge me to refute is gibberish. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/153 "2022-08-13T18:41:47Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > I like fish sticks… Hold the tip of your tongue and say “fish sticks”. You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/154 "2022-08-13T18:45:14Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I still have no idea why you think I have “sjw” views. > > Thats the mystery. > > What you challenge me to refute is gibberish. Still no refutation I see. Nice excuse tho; “It’s gibberish so I don’t have to nananana neener!” Cool. You just don’t like that I disagree, but you lack the acumen to really articulate anything beyond that. And maybe you feel a bit threatened by the fact that I’m actually studied up on the subject, and you’re not. I get it. It’s cool. Do you boo. But do calm down. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/0/6f0d95b04296b78e3dd4a0aeaa1a0c48173fa98a.png) Prediction: There will be no refutation, just more childish insulting and “witty” snark. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/155 "2022-08-13T18:48:59Z")
You can disagree all you wish, you are clearly doing so without any issue. It was you who disagreed with what I said to someone else. It was you who decided my answer to someone wasnt good enough (even though it was dead on the money and you decided not to refute it), and went off on one about marxists and revolutions. Which were nothing to do with it. And now you are … Angry? Bothered? Amused? By the fact I disagree with you. It really is about you being a hypocrit. Maybe step out of the Academia for a spell and notice Athens is not the world. Also I note how not “dead to you” I am. When’s that going to kick in, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/156 "2022-08-13T18:52:21Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/3/2/1323c7ae4b555f2e1e4bd273369b649fd0cd7e74.png) Called it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/157 "2022-08-13T18:52:41Z")
Its like the dictionary definition of a hypocrit. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/158 "2022-08-13T18:52:58Z")
etcetc. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/159 "2022-08-13T19:42:13Z")
Mechanisms for what though? To hold some fleet event someplace? From interuption from others? I don’t know what are you are referring towards. Why do Capsuleers join large Alliances? They hold private events? I can think of Titan Chicken Destruction Timer would be my first guess. I am skeptical that this doesn’t already happen with Corp held events and private contracts to it’s members to issue rewards? I’m actually dumbfounded to think that it doesn’t. Why be in some Alliance then if things like that don’t happen? / My Corp holds it’s own events and makes enough isk to give some of it away I do not see how some large corp is not swimming in isk right now? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/160 "2022-08-13T19:47:05Z")
Well, if the in game mechanisms for Corp and Alliance memberships didnt exist, but needed to be devised by the players, simply changing corps might be a lot more complex. Or simpler too, thats possible. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239/161 "2022-08-13T19:49:15Z")
Okay so I think I am starting to understand the reference, could this also be due to the discussions regarding the approaching delivery of the Faction Warfare system upgrade? / So to revisit this; We already have a way of joining or a corp, the selection process my guess are reviewed and a pilots history is like a resume. The Capsuleer joins for a reason and it is the ruleset for joining that maintains that member which can be seen as simular where a Capsuleer continues to play Eve Online as their personal free time lines up with others who they get along with ingame to do the things they like and reason they signed up for the Corp in the first place. That’s the best I can describe my thinking right now. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-as-content-and-the-victim-mindset/373239.md?page=9)