# Players don't understands Eve is a Free Game... why?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 6, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021 "2022-06-06T20:21:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/21 "2022-06-26T18:47:25Z")

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I had a lot of time with EVE as Omega. After a while I wanted to return to the game but I’ve noteiced that the game is much more expensive since I’ve left the game. I was thinking to return to the game but after I saw the prices I desist this idea. I can’t also play as an alpha because , no skills to upgrade and most of the items I had is unusable. That is very upsetting.

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**Author:** ![Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minnaken_rotsuda/32/325860_2.png) [@Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minnaken_Rotsuda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/22 "2022-06-26T18:53:42Z")

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Mcdonalds is always hiring for extra shifts…

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/23 "2022-06-26T18:54:55Z")

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Haha so you are working there. I can come and eat some burgers than if this is not also like sh!t! 🙂

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/24 "2022-06-26T19:03:19Z")

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I agree!

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/25 "2022-06-26T19:06:27Z")

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So we can think Eve 5 years later , all players are mcdonalds worker with a doubleshift and fat asses and fat bellies then ? 😃

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/26 "2022-06-26T19:10:27Z")

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When you choose to not eat at a restaurant, do you also leave reviews on Yelp complaining about what they should be doing that would entice you to eat there?

Do you leave Steam reviews for games you decided not to purchase? Giving advice to the developer of what needs to be changed for you to buy the game?

Do you leave Amazon reviews for products you didn’t buy? Giving notes to the manufacturers of what changes are needed in the products to get you to buy their product?

You admit you don’t play the game, so why are you here necroing a thread, spamming 5 out of the last 7 replies, to spread negativity? Go enjoy your Eve-free life outside of the Eve community. It’s folks like you that kill any constructive forum vibes and give the forums its reputation of negativity. And you won’t be the one left to bear the brunt of that reputation – we have to. Thanks for that. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minnaken_rotsuda/32/325860_2.png) [@Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minnaken_Rotsuda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/27 "2022-06-26T19:18:32Z")

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no but a pathetic loser whining over the current sub price must be a poor scrub in life.

get that second shift…

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/28 "2022-06-26T19:53:53Z")

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You can buy alpha injectors and use them on any skills you can still train as an alpha

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/29 "2022-06-26T20:01:14Z")

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> [@Queotzcatl](#):
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> Players don’t understands Eve is a Free Game… why?

I don’t know… Maybe because it isn’t free?

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**Author:** ![Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlett_lablanc/32/358434_2.png) [@Scarlett\_LaBlanc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlett_LaBlanc)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/30 "2022-06-26T20:49:34Z")

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> [@Minnaken\_Rotsuda](#):
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> They are bleeding 15million USD per month in operating loss keeping servers up now…

Close…. It’s 15 Million last YEAR. The losses are not just keeping the servers running, it is the huge investment they are making in development costs.

What they are developing… I guess we may see some day.

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**Author:** ![Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minnaken_rotsuda/32/325860_2.png) [@Minnaken\_Rotsuda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minnaken_Rotsuda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/31 "2022-06-26T20:51:19Z")

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servers likely to be shutdown by november per last PA announcement

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/32 "2022-06-26T21:10:31Z")

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Well here is my take. The cloest MMO I can draw lines to from EVE is Star Trek Online. Pretty much “endstage”? MMO. They still expand on the story devs draw inspiration from series. Some new PVE scenarios and stuff but pretty much all the same grind. People know Star Trek Online is a free to play game because it’s a easy PVE simulator. STO keeps running because of really micro transactions and people purchasing life time subscriptions for unique ships and skins. Ultimately all/most of the ships are great at PVE in STO.

With EVE. It’s made clear being an omega has massive advantages over alpha as there is so much more in t2 ships/gear alphas can’t get. Perhaps people get the perception you NEED omega to play the game to it’s fullest potential. I am right in that boat I couldn’t play Stellaris w/o every DLC. Bought every DLC and I am going to enjoy that game for pretty much the rest of my life.

**Getting to my point. I feel like EVE has been marketed to were people know being an alpha is being a second class citizen. I have a good feeling there are many consumers like me who can’t stand putting their time in a game and not getting everything.** The subscription market is very vicious EVE is competing with every subscription provider out there. AND the video games of as high complexity of EVE for a simple one time purchase. Why subscribe to EVE when I could enjoy other games for a one time purchase?

Sorry I was late to this thread. People have to really comment on a thread 16 days ago 😕

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/33 "2022-06-26T21:57:42Z")

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> [@Minnaken\_Rotsuda](#):
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> servers likely to be shutdown by november per last PA announcement

Source?

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/34 "2022-06-26T22:05:09Z")

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It’s a new char from an obvious troll that does nothing but post nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/35 "2022-06-26T22:08:47Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> It’s a new char from an obvious troll that does nothing but post nonsense

Well hell, that’s half the members on this forum.

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/36 "2022-06-27T05:45:14Z")

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Answering your stupid questions :  
1- Yes I do .  
2- Yes I do .  
3- Yes I do  
4- this is not your business but same reason that why you are spending your time to writing that long comment.

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/37 "2022-06-27T05:45:57Z")

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Did you also look at how many chars ? XD

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/38 "2022-06-27T05:49:54Z")

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I don’t know who the pathetic one is, the one who spends all his hours paying for this pathetic game of his life or the ones who don’t have much time to play because they do real work in normal life. I think you should go and let your mother breastfeed you a little.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/39 "2022-06-27T06:06:44Z")

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I think you misunderstand, based on your answers, this is none of _your_ business. Literally.

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**Author:** ![KHAN\_OSAKA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_osaka/32/325947_2.png) [@KHAN\_OSAKA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KHAN_OSAKA)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/players-dont-understands-eve-is-a-free-game-why/366021/40 "2022-06-27T06:09:22Z")

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No this is my business because I am the customer. I can make negative critisim , I can complain of anything about any product. A company who doesn’t listen their customers will lose everytime. Actually you are the one doing a business no body wants it from you. Or are you a worker in EVE ?

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