# Playing EVE since 2003

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** feedback\
**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836 "2020-02-19T19:25:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fathomn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fathomn/32/416655_2.png) [@fathomn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/fathomn)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/23 "2020-02-20T02:40:20Z")

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So Im 2003 too whats your point? A month after game went live.

You whine and bitch and complain. Adapt or GTFO. IF you KNOW so much about what CCP is doing you should be using it to your advantage instead of whinging on the forums like a nublet.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/24 "2020-02-20T10:38:28Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> Dude this is you fight me or stfu.

Learn to write in English before posting here.

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**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/25 "2020-02-20T11:00:03Z")

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I played since 2003 too. The hardest nerf was when EVE online updater removed BOOT.INI , but Microsoft didn’t whine about it and changed their OS to be more resillient.  
I became a better, more resillient person. And even now I learn as corp mates have helped me fight me low-effort posting on this and other forums.

Thank you CCP for making a game with an awesome community that makes most people become a better person. Most.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/26 "2020-02-20T12:21:57Z")

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Agree with OP, I started in 2010, I had such hopes for this game, we were promised the world, the Universe, which today would make Star Citizen devs jealous, instead we get … Red Dots!! SMH  
What should’ve been by now;  
 ![erererere](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/f/ffed547cfa76c5c9256f89ebff488ab6a0705927.png)

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**Author:** ![Sensei\_Meelia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sensei_meelia/32/187190_2.png) [@Sensei\_Meelia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sensei_Meelia)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/27 "2020-02-20T12:43:43Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> I have been playing eve since 2003, and during that time I have had breaks of between 6 months and a year, so why did I take a break, Due to losing a freighter, (Na they did not exist back then), due to being ganked by superior numbers, (na that’s a fair game play experience), I stopped playing due to CCP changing the rules and ship mechanics again, and again, and again. I spent 3 years training for a carrier, then ccp changed what they could do, this has happened with all ships, rather than buffing the lower tier ships they just f&^\* you over on all your training and asperations of what you want to fly. They never do it to the low skilled pilots only to the older pilots (Hence the Bitter Vets) because we have been screwed over so many times more than you new players. this has been a CCP mandate since 2005 so you want to fly a ship in eve that looks cool, don’t bother by the time you can train for it , ccp will make it nerfed and pointless. this is not a nub speaking this is a person that has invested thousands of dollars in a game , where the rules change at a whim of CCP. save your money and your time, go play any game where you don’t pay them to shaft you.  
> I have just thought of a good similarity, it like buying a 50 inch TV, and it shrinking by 10 inches every year, does this sound fair to you ?

In 17 years you never learned to adapt?

Maybe you do not belong here after all, i have to say after 16 years and 295m SP i am still having fun in new eden (red dot not included)

PS… Paragraphs would have made it an easier read…

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/28 "2020-02-20T14:30:06Z")

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> [@Sensei\_Meelia](#):
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> In 17 years you never learned to adapt?

Correct. He didn’t.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/29 "2020-02-20T15:39:12Z")

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Yeah, I agree with you 100%. I’ve been playing since 2008 and a lot of my ship fits have had to be redone due to CCP nerfing them. In fact most of the time it seems all CCP can do is just nerf.

Anyway, there’s about a dozen main trolls here in the forums who constantly spout sh\*t, I suggest you flag their replies and don’t waste any more of your time replying to them. You’ve already met a few, view their posting history and you’ll see that’s all they do.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/30 "2020-02-20T15:55:04Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Anyway, there’s about a dozen main trolls here in the forums who constantly spout sh\*t, I suggest you flag their replies and don’t waste any more of your time replying to them. You’ve already met a few, view their posting history and you’ll see that’s all they do.

I still have the kettle on the stove for when you’re over for the visit you promised me.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/31 "2020-02-21T14:16:02Z")

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Piss off asshole, I never promised anything. In fact, you challenged me so it’s on you to travel. Obviously you can’t read plain text so maybe you’ll understand this:

🖕

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/34 "2020-02-21T14:37:23Z")

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**Author:** ![Kace\_Robins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kace_robins/32/484596_2.png) [@Kace\_Robins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kace_Robins)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/35 "2020-02-21T15:27:16Z")

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Your post is the only one that makes sense in this whole mess. Yes, it comes down to power creep. If you’re into flying tech 1 hulls, you know how the power curve goes. IMHO, the game would be better off if they stopped creating new overpowered ships and stuck with rebalancing the ones we already have.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/36 "2020-02-21T15:39:31Z")

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> [@Kace\_Robins](#):
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> IMHO, the game would be better off if they stopped creating new overpowered ships and stuck with rebalancing the ones we already have.

Agreed.

Everyone loves to use noobs as an argument for their personal agenda but never where it counts.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett\_Erkkinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlett_erkkinen/32/188071_2.png) [@Scarlett\_Erkkinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlett_Erkkinen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/37 "2020-02-21T15:42:06Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> Ccp bow to the loudest voices on the forums, and have no interest on how to advance there solid core of players they have, they would be amazing in financial terms and player opinions, if they did but no, we just want to concede as a money grabbing company. This Is a bad business decision and just like the red Fuc\*&\* dot , Who the hell is running CCP atm they should either play the game or basically leave ASAP. We can leave in a heartbeat, and the way you are making the game , we are are ready to.

Exactly, that is how I see Eve/CCP now, as a cash grabbing spit in your face type of scumbag company. 15 years of getting focked by 20 isk frigate gate campers, FU CCP!

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**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/38 "2020-02-21T15:44:02Z")

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> [@Aedaxus](#):
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> The hardest nerf was when EVE online updater removed BOOT.INI , but Microsoft didn’t whine about it and changed their OS to be more resillient.

I was lucky enough to run Vista (…) back then and have installed the game on the D drive. But as fckups go it’s hard to top that one.

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/40 "2020-02-21T17:01:32Z")

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inb4lock \o/

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**Author:** ![Kace\_Robins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kace_robins/32/484596_2.png) [@Kace\_Robins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kace_Robins)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/41 "2020-02-21T17:03:52Z")

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Inb4lock 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![GandolftheWhite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gandolfthewhite/32/172709_2.png) [@GandolftheWhite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GandolftheWhite)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/43 "2020-02-24T12:24:52Z")

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> [@Sensei\_Meelia](#):
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> > [@Talic](#):
> >
> > I have been playing eve since 2003, and during that time I have had breaks of between 6 months and a year, so why did I take a break, Due to losing a freighter, (Na they did not exist back then), due to being ganked by superior numbers, (na that’s a fair game play experience), I stopped playing due to CCP changing the rules and ship mechanics again, and again, and again. I spent 3 years training for a carrier, then ccp changed what they could do, this has happened with all ships, rather than buffing the lower tier ships they just f&^\* you over on all your training and asperations of what you want to fly. They never do it to the low skilled pilots only to the older pilots (Hence the Bitter Vets) because we have been screwed over so many times more than you new players. this has been a CCP mandate since 2005 so you want to fly a ship in eve that looks cool, don’t bother by the time you can train for it , ccp will make it nerfed and pointless. this is not a nub speaking this is a person that has invested thousands of dollars in a game , where the rules change at a whim of CCP. save your money and your time, go play any game where you don’t pay them to shaft you.  
> > I have just thought of a good similarity, it like buying a 50 inch TV, and it shrinking by 10 inches every year, does this sound fair to you ?
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> In 17 years you never learned to adapt?
> 
> Maybe you do not belong here after all, i have to say after 16 years and 295m SP i am still having fun in new eden (red dot not included)
> 
> PS… Paragraphs would have made it an easier read…

Maybe you are just an idiot moron?

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**Author:** ![GandolftheWhite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gandolfthewhite/32/172709_2.png) [@GandolftheWhite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GandolftheWhite)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/44 "2020-02-24T12:26:12Z")

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> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#):
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> 17 years is not long enough to become an adult if you started playing as a baby.

and what do you want to tell us with your wisdom? ADS?

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**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/45 "2020-02-24T12:38:48Z")

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you got a real hard-on for that word.

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**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/playing-eve-since-2003/220836/47 "2020-02-24T17:49:43Z")

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My first days in eve, Autopilot would route you through lowsec by default. I went through rancer, and lost my ship and cargo.

This is the reason i continued playing eve. Because i wanted to do that, some day.

And, as someone who’s never owned a titan or supercarrier, and only ever been on the recieving end of them, i loved it when i saw Titans doomsdaying giant subcapital fleets.

I wanted to do that some day.

But every time i am just about to get one of these things that i worked hard for, CCP nerfs it and takes it away.

I will never enjoy these things that made me play eve in the first place, because they’re simply not in the game anymore.

Eve has been the biggest Bait-and-Switch i’ve ever sunk time into.

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