# Plead with CCP to allow Capsuleers use Vanguard warclone tech directly (and vice versa)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plead-with-ccp-to-allow-capsuleers-use-vanguard-warclone-tech-directly-and-vice-versa/422480>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Tags:** game-mechanics\
**Created:** [October 1, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plead-with-ccp-to-allow-capsuleers-use-vanguard-warclone-tech-directly-and-vice-versa/422480 "2023-10-01T17:00:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plead-with-ccp-to-allow-capsuleers-use-vanguard-warclone-tech-directly-and-vice-versa/422480/2 "2023-10-01T18:53:50Z")

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If there’s no skill training system I definitely want my pilot running and gunning, maybe raiding some T4 PI goods from another EVE player.

> [@EVE Vanguard](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard/421375/1):
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> I would like to [request](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-vanguard/421375) letting me infiltrate and steal player ships from structures.

If Vanguard _does_ use a skill system I am not interested in the devil’s choice whether to train EVE skills or Vanguard skills on the same toon, and I’m not interested in paying plex for the privilege of training both simultaneously.

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