# Please critique my Gila

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [March 13, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819 "2018-03-13T14:17:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/21 "2018-03-18T09:36:11Z")

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> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#):
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> run 2 invluns because I’m too lazy to swap hardeners

Alphas can not perma-run 2 Adaptive Invuls with the afterburner due to limited cap regen.

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/22 "2018-03-18T09:36:51Z")

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> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#):
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> Personally I wont fit one on anything that doesn’t use sentries

Hence the name “Not quite a Drake” 😉

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/23 "2018-03-18T12:19:49Z")

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Add 3% implants for shield capacity and shield regen fill rest of hardwiring slots with whatever you wish.

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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/24 "2018-03-18T17:44:21Z")

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> [@Felicitas\_Minbar](#):
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> Hull only 40km, 60km with the Drone Link Aug.
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> The Drone Link Aug proved to be a necessary module as 40km is not enough, 60km is quite OK-ish

that is a good reason to fit a drone link augmentor, 40km is a pretty annoying range for most lv4s when your main weapon system is drones. The alternate would be to fit a drone control range rig, but that will also eat a bunch of CPU so I’m not sure it’s a better option, also hurts the tank.

> [@Felicitas\_Minbar](#):
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> Alphas can not perma-run 2 Adaptive Invuls with the afterburner due to limited cap regen.

yikes! it’s easy to forget how bad alpha cap skills are when you don’t play on one much

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/25 "2018-03-19T14:36:29Z")

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> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#):
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> The alternate would be to fit a drone control range rig, but that will also eat a bunch of CPU so I’m not sure it’s a better option, also hurts the tank.

I prefer to play it safe.

Maybe my fitting is influenced from my disabilities which I discussed elsewhere too much to be truly generic

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/26 "2018-03-24T09:55:32Z")

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I’d run one of the new Faction hybrid ballistic/drone damage modules instead of the third T2 drone damage. The “A” version is cheap @6m ISK and the “X” version is quickly dropping below 80m ISK.

Your fit would also benefit from a drone nav module to boost drone speed.

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/27 "2018-03-24T10:20:18Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> new Faction hybrid ballistic/drone damage module

What’s the proper name of that? Never heard of such a module

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/28 "2018-03-24T10:21:54Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Your fit would also benefit from a drone nav module to boost drone speed

That would nerf the tank. I’m still the little coward to do that 😉

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/29 "2018-03-24T10:32:56Z")

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Never mind!

You’re talking about the

- C3-A ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

and the

- C3-A ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/30 "2018-03-24T10:35:13Z")

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I’m still using the drones only. Only very rarely frog survive long enough to get into the launchers range

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/31 "2018-03-24T10:42:47Z")

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C3-A ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System and C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System of course 😉

The C3-X does not fit without changing other modules or adding a fitting implant or two.

The C3-A would reduce the paper dps, the C3-X would add about 10 (Precision) or 30 (Fury) paper dps which would be wasted because the rats rarely get into the launchers range.

The C3-A oder C3-X are useful on Rattlesnakes where the launchers are not as secondary as on my Gila

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/32 "2018-03-24T10:53:09Z")

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Less tank, faster drones, less drone dos, more missile dps, more total dps at 25km.

Not my thing because I prefer to fight over distance, aka sniping, to cope with my disabilities.

Your recommended fitting would look like this:

[Gila, Not Quite a Drake]  
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Drone Navigation Computer I

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Valkyrie II x3  
Hammerhead II x3  
Vespa II x2  
Infiltrator II x2

Inferno Precision Light Missile x1000  
Inferno Fury Light Missile x2000  
Scourge Precision Light Missile x1000  
Scourge Fury Light Missile x2000

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**Author:** ![Gunther\_Ultrabolt\_Novacrunch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunther_ultrabolt_novacrunch/32/80352_2.png) [@Gunther\_Ultrabolt\_Novacrunch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunther_Ultrabolt_Novacrunch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/33 "2018-06-20T02:22:54Z")

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Passive recharge from 191 to 263? I have nearly identical set up w/ only 91 hp/s. What am I doing wrong?

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**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/34 "2018-06-20T02:32:04Z")

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Those are pyfa/eft numbers. Use pyfa. It gives you the passive recharge based on effective hitpoints (including resists), you can also dial in different damage profiles. It’s a really helpful piece of software especially when it comes to passive shield fits. The in-game fitting simulator leaves too much guesswork.

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**Author:** ![Gunther\_Ultrabolt\_Novacrunch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunther_ultrabolt_novacrunch/32/80352_2.png) [@Gunther\_Ultrabolt\_Novacrunch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunther_Ultrabolt_Novacrunch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/35 "2018-06-20T03:16:21Z")

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ah…ok thanks. Figured something was whacky.

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**Author:** ![Jerome\_Thallerent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerome_thallerent/32/150473_2.png) [@Jerome\_Thallerent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerome_Thallerent)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/36 "2018-08-26T08:12:57Z")

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@ Felicitas\_Minbar : Aloa !  
Wondering, how long does it takes to your alpha clone to clear L4s ?  
does she have max alpha skills ?  
From your experience, what are the minimum skill requirements in order to fly this baby (the purger version) ?

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/37 "2018-10-20T11:46:35Z")

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@Jerome_Thallerent, I’m sorry I missed your post. Was EVE-offline for health reasons.

The Gila is almost quite as fast clearing L4 missions as battleships. Especially missile battleships suffer a lot from missile flight time.

Being an alpha clone is much worse to mission time!

I can’t tell about minimum skills requirements because all my chars prefer maxed out skills. So even alpha clones have maximum alpha skills because I trained all of them to maximum omega skills

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**Author:** ![Junara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/junara/32/116031_2.png) [@Junara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Junara)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/38 "2019-01-15T11:23:39Z")

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So what was your final fit that you were using with success, can you post it?

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/39 "2019-01-15T21:51:44Z")

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This is my current fitting:

[Gila, Not Quite a Drake]  
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II  
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Valkyrie II x3  
Hammerhead II x3  
Vespa II x2  
Infiltrator II x2

Scourge Fury Light Missile x2000  
Inferno Fury Light Missile x1867  
Scourge Precision Light Missile x884  
Inferno Precision Light Missile x880

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**Author:** ![Chilli\_Allier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chilli_allier/32/135566_2.png) [@Chilli\_Allier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chilli_Allier)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-critique-my-gila/62819/40 "2019-01-16T07:44:53Z")

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I have my own fit here.Is using a invul far better than full passive tank?  
[Gila, Gila]  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile  
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile  
Small Tractor Beam I

Pithum A-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier  
Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier  
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Shield Power Relay II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Caldari Navy Vespa x2

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