# Please eliminate spawn kIlling in faction space **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [March 23, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401 "2018-03-23T05:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/41 "2018-04-02T23:56:47Z")
Are trying to say that, outside of null/j-space blocakde runners are killed en masse at gate camps? ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/42 "2018-04-02T23:59:53Z")
Uedama and Nairja - two systems that are very heavily ganked. In low sec Frulegur, Hagilur and Rancer are 3 places to watch out for, or most likely - avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/43 "2018-04-03T00:10:49Z")
> [@Jade\_Mitch](#): > > It was an Iteron. No mods would have changed the odds. mwd cloak > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Align, MWD, cloak…wait out the MWD cycle, delcoak and warp. align,cloak,MWD it makes a difference ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/44 "2018-04-03T00:13:41Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Are trying to say that, outside of null/j-space blocakde runners are killed en masse at gate camps? Where are you getting that from? In highsec, blockade runners tend mainly to be ganked at Jita 4-4 (usually from Tornados that gank them if they don’t have an instadock, in the hope that their cargo is good, because they can’t be scanned), but very few blockade runners are ganked. It’s one of the safest forms of transport (but totally not accessible to alpha characters). In lowsec, there is never much reason to lose a blockade runner (Tama occasionally, when the spawn point is within 2km of a wreck already, so cloaking isn’t possible). In null and jspace, a dictor and interceptor working together can catch them regularly. That’s where they are most at risk, but even a quick hictor alone also stands a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/45 "2018-04-03T00:14:26Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Uedama and Nairja - two systems that are very heavily ganked. In low sec Frulegur, Hagilur and Rancer are 3 places to watch out for, or most likely - avoid. Well highsec hauling doesn’t go through lowsec, by definition. As for highsec, there are a number of key systems to monitor, depending on which type of hauler is being used. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/46 "2018-04-03T00:17:05Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > align,cloak,MWD > > it makes a difference That’s correct. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/47 "2018-04-03T00:22:08Z")
I see you haven’t done many trips between Hek and Jita - going through Rancer halfs the trip. Not always possible to do so but if blockade runner can hold what you are going to pick then it is way better than 40 jump round trip. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/48 "2018-04-03T00:23:17Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > I see you haven’t done many trips between Hek and Jita - going through Rancer halfs the trip. Not always possible to do so but if blockade runner can hold what you are going to pick then it is way better than 40 jump round trip. Where do you see that from? I regularly go to Hek. However, any trip into lowsec is by definition, not highsec hauling, and I just use a jump freighter. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/49 "2018-04-03T00:25:15Z")
… or a DST. i mean i regularly move through LS with those and have yet to lose one to anything other than getting distracted and going afk. but yeah if you go into LS it is no longer HS hauling ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/50 "2018-04-03T04:19:20Z")
As for the gankers tracking you via contracts. Have an alt accept the contract pass it off to your hauler and transport it that way. That way they don’t have your name. ---
**Author:** ![Caolan\_Carraig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caolan_carraig/32/11436_2.png) [@Caolan\_Carraig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caolan_Carraig)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/51 "2018-05-08T01:03:28Z")
> [@Jade\_Mitch](#): > > A: Nope- can’t afford them after losing all my money as collateral on courier contracts. > > B: There’s no such thing as ‘friends’ in Eve. > > C: They’re target me specifically, as a courier, so there’s no statistics, no warning, nothing. > > D: How about you not give advice until you actually know what you’re talking about. A - Rule 1, Don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose. This isn’t just about the value of your ship, it’s about the value of everything related to your journey and includes ‘extras’ like collateral. B - There are, but unless you join and integrate with a good group then you’ll always be the lonely kid in the corner of the playground who has the best toys but won’t share. C - Assume you’re simply referring to high sec camps here as in low/nul then everything gets shot. They do not target you specifically. They target all worthwhile targets (those that will give the best chance of decent drops) and hopefully cover the cost of the ships that they will lose to concord. All about risk vs reward. D - Don’t make rash assumptions on what the rest of the community want simply based on your own inadequecies. ---
**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/52 "2018-05-09T04:18:01Z")
1. Spend like $10 on some PLEX if you don’t have ISK 2. Train a t3 3. Make it cloaky+nullified 4. Profit ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/53 "2018-05-09T06:09:52Z")
or just get a DST and watch like one 2 min video ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/54 "2018-05-10T08:36:15Z")
> [@Caolan\_Carraig](#): > > There are, but unless you join and integrate with a good group then you’ll always be the lonely kid in the corner of the playground who has the best toys but won’t share. Not trying to ■■■■ into your bucket, I want to add that one can make friends without joining a group. There is npc corp chat (which does not count as joining a group, because you are being dropped into it) and there is local, which I have always used to find people to play with. It is easy to make friends, either way, but isolationists rather play all alone without anyone else, just like in all the lesser MMOs who are easy. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/55 "2018-05-14T11:12:52Z")
do NOT accept courier contracts with your actual courier… are you insane? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-eliminate-spawn-killing-in-faction-space/65401/56 "2018-08-12T11:12:55Z")
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